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Article #1830Re: US as No. 1 (3 data books)
From: Brent Irvine
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:51
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:51
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In article <1993Jan26.114023.28748@adobe.com> cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes: >Well, certainly the "look, everyone wants to live here" bit of >"logic" is a factor, but there are many more that are probably >more important. In particular, the issue of individual freedom >and choice (at least, until the drug war started in earnest). > >Americans look at other countries and see things by which >Americans are not constrained: > >Official state religions >Mandatory government/military service >Mandatory separation of college-bound vs. trade-bound students >in the early/mid teenage years >Unreasonable (to Americans) search and seizure in the name of >public safety >Mandatory shop closing hours (a la Germany, Nederlands, etc.) >Legislation without true representation (House of Lords) > >Add to the above the military might of the country, and you have >a citizenry who feel they are powerful as a country and powerful >as individuals. They can own as many guns as they like, they can >drive an automobile with no instruction after passing the most >absurdly minimal of tests, they can worship whomever they like >publicly, and they can stand in front of the White House and call >the President a horse's ass as long as they're not so loud as to >be considered disturbing the peace. > >That kind of personal (and national) power breeds arrogance and >contempt; it is human nature. I seem to recall that England >herself had a rather healthy case of it a few hundred years back, >and it ended up costing her The Empire. I would say that American are not Arrogant as much as others say. With all the self depricating done oin the media that people buy, and base policy on, America is a nation that continuously feels it is on the edge of failure. While proud, i do not feel that there is a whoel lot of arrogance [esp. when immigration is a major force making "American" a difficult-to-define term!]. I also think that "arrogance" was not the cause of England's relative decline over the last 50 years. There were a lot of non-arrogance oriented events (WWII's debt) that did a far "better" job than an assumed attitude... >-- >Curtis Jackson '91 Black Lab/Blue Heeler "Studley Doright" >cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com '92 Collie/Golden "George" >DoD #721 KotB '91 Hawk GT '81 Maxim 650 >"I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead." -- J. Buffett -- +-------------------------+--------------------------------+-----------------+ | Brent L. Irvine | For a mere $50 these personal | Ak! Its 1992 tax| | irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu | opinions can also be yours! | season! Yuck! | +-------------------------+--------------------------------+-----------------+
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!ogicse!mimbres.cs.unm.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!news.cso.uiuc.edu!uxh.cso.uiuc.edu!irvine From: irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine) Newsgroups: sci.econ,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.canada Subject: Re: US as No. 1 (3 data books) Message-ID: <C1Iuun.Gn9@news.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: 27 Jan 93 16:51:59 GMT Article-I.D.: news.C1Iuun.Gn9 References: <1993Jan22.151010.17928@acuson.com> <1993Jan22.220321.8579@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> <1993Jan26.114023.28748@adobe.com> Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner) Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Lines: 56