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Article #1882Re: MANUFACTURING EMPLOYMENT DROPS TO 1962 LOWS!!!!
From: Mark Martin
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 19:19
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 19:19
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"Jim Blair" <jeblair@facstaff.wisc.edu> wrote in message news:akge7v$3j1$1@news.doit.wisc.edu... > > >Jim Blair wrote: > >. > >. > >. > >> I see it this way: those with less skill and less education are losing out > >> to those with more education or greater skills. > > Peter Lawrence <peterl@netlink.com.au> wrote: > > > >Unfortunately this doesn't actually tell us that more skills etc. will help - > >because it doesn't distinguish between tendencies to increase product and > >tendencies to poach jobs. The issue is discussed at http://www.faxfn.org. > > Hi, > > It depends on the kind of training, kind of education, and kind of > shortages in the job market. > > >... In > >fact, it is quite easy to describe a self consistent scenario which is > >consistent with the above, in which the search for skills means less product; > >it's when people go into training etc. and divert resources into it that only > >match their MARGINAL gains but not the absolute increase in GDP (if any). The > >losses show as an externality. > > > Sure if the shortages are in math and science teachers, and doctors, > nurses, and the schools are turning out English majors specializing in > 18th century poetry or Gay and Lesbian history ..... > > > > >So that raises the question, how can we tell which case applies? PML. > > > > In our local paper yesterday there was a letter published in reply to an > article on the increase in low paid workers in Wisconsin, and on how hard > it is to get by on less that a "living wage". > > The letter was from the president of the Wisconsin Health and Hospital > Association. He pointed out that anyone who completes a 2 year degree > program from MATC or other technical college in any of a variety of health > care programs (nursing, radiation technology, med tech, medical record > administration, etc) can be assured of a career with a family supporting > salary. > > The family next door to me is considering moving to another part of the > country. They are looking where he can find a job. As he said, while he > may be limited, his wife is a nurse: she can get a good job anywhere they > decide to move. Sorry guys. I don't have the time or inclination to discuss this any more. Tonight, I start my next job working in a... get this... in a factory. After 15 months of being unemployed, I'm now going to be working for half the wage I was making as a software support engineer. Working as a temp, with no heath insurance. Not what I would call "progress." Put that statistic in your calculator and smoke it. Mark Martin
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