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Re: MANUFACTURING EMPLOYMENT DROPS TO 1962 LOWS!!!!

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From: Mark Martin
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 19:19
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"Jim Blair" <jeblair@facstaff.wisc.edu> wrote in message
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>
> >Jim Blair wrote:
> >.
> >.
> >.
> >> I see it this way: those with less skill and less education are losing
out
> >> to those with more education or greater skills.
>
> Peter Lawrence <peterl@netlink.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >Unfortunately this doesn't actually tell us that more skills etc. will
help -
> >because it doesn't distinguish between tendencies to increase product and
> >tendencies to poach jobs. The issue is discussed at http://www.faxfn.org.
>
> Hi,
>
> It depends on the kind of training, kind of education, and kind of
> shortages in the job market.
>
> >... In
> >fact, it is quite easy to describe a self consistent scenario which is
> >consistent with the above, in which the search for skills means less
product;
> >it's when people go into training etc. and divert resources into it that
only
> >match their MARGINAL gains but not the absolute increase in GDP (if any).
The
> >losses show as an externality.
>
>
> Sure if the shortages are in math and science teachers, and doctors,
> nurses, and the schools are turning out English majors specializing in
> 18th  century poetry or  Gay and Lesbian history .....
>
> >
> >So that raises the question, how can we tell which case applies? PML.
> >
>
> In our local paper yesterday there was a letter published in reply to an
> article on the increase in low paid workers in Wisconsin, and on how hard
> it is to get by on less that a "living wage".
>
> The letter was from the president of the Wisconsin Health and Hospital
> Association.  He pointed out that anyone who completes a 2 year degree
> program from MATC or other technical college in any of a variety of health
> care programs (nursing, radiation technology, med tech, medical record
> administration, etc) can be assured of a career with a family supporting
> salary.
>
> The family next door to me is considering moving to another part of the
> country.  They are looking where he can find a job. As he said, while he
> may be limited, his wife is a nurse: she can get a good job anywhere they
> decide to move.

Sorry guys.  I don't have the time or inclination to discuss this any more.
Tonight, I start my next job working in a... get this... in a factory.
After 15 months of being unemployed, I'm now going to be working for half
the wage I was making as a software support engineer.  Working as a temp,
with no heath insurance.  Not what I would call "progress."  Put that
statistic in your calculator and smoke it.

Mark Martin
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From: "Mark Martin" <mpmartin7@mindspring.com>
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Subject: Re: MANUFACTURING EMPLOYMENT DROPS TO 1962 LOWS!!!!
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