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On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 18:25:47 -0500, Roy Carin wrote:

> On 06/16/2010 04:02 PM, masoncXXX@XXXfrontal-lobe.info wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:04:11 -0400, tripletask@gmail..com , a member of
>> that ignorant sub-class called "gmail.com" wrote:
>> 
>>> some nonsense I won't repeat
>> 
>> The anthropological fact here is that the wealthy of California could
>> pay off the California deficit and debt *with no reduction in their
>> life-style.*
>> 
>> 
> So ask them.

The rest of California may well do that.

>> Only an anthropologist might be able to explain the conservative's
>> refusal to distribute taxes in a rational manner.
> 
> First we should ask if California's government should be doing all that
> it is doing.

Not me.  I don't live in California.  The Californians need to be the 
ones who decide that.
 
>> It must be a genetic
>> flaw created in the course of evolution.
>> 
>> 
> The "flaw" being a functioning brain and a desire to use it.

Yes.  That is the part that seems to be missing on the rightarded fringe.

> If some
> wealthy people want to bail out California, let them. If not, the state
> will have to create a balanced budget through some combination of tax
> increases and spending cuts.
> 
> However, the wealthy do not OWE the state government of California any
> more than what they've already provided.

You can't know that.

> Those "wealthy" who are
> creating businesses and jobs have already contributed much more than the
> average person.

And you can't know that either.

If California increases taxes then some people will leave.  I look at it 
and ask myself which people are the PRODUCERS. Those would be the people 
I would try to keep if I were the California community.  That would mean 
that I would endeavor to tax land values.  The retort is that Granny will 
have to move (oh trauma).  But Granny is not a producer any more than 
some "investor" in land or any other "owner" of land.  This SHOULD have 
been the case _BEFORE_ the Republican bubble.  Too bad.

People love to live in California because of the land itself.  The 
natural weather, ocean, and mountains.  And there is the commerce of the 
port and of Silicon Valley.  Not everyone can afford to live in the best 
places.  The places are bid up by the people in a free market.  All of 
that money can go to fund government and production is not harmed as it 
would be by income and sales taxes.  Part of the reason that California 
is a disaster is because people try to escape the cost of the natural and 
the community created quality of life there.  They try to tax other 
people, and to create a "capital gain" from location rents.

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