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Article #2081Re: Technological Singularity
From: Arthur T. Murray
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 00:00
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 00:00
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After several hours of programming Mind.forth I escape to the
Usenet for relaxation and find this gem of a post by Bill Moyer:
> [...] seebs@plethora.net (Peter Seebach) writes: [...]
>> Arthur T. Murray <uj797@victoria.tc.ca> wrote:
>> Engineers of Mitsubishi, of Daewoo, and of the Weng Zhen economy,
>> please make a humanistic and Chardinesque way to the Singularity.
>>
>> Can anyone figure out what this means? [ Sorry; SHEN Zhen -- ATM ]
> Arthur is referring to what Vernor Vinge dubbed the "Technological
> Singularity", which can be generally described as the point in time
> at which a technological innovation either renders mankind incapable
> of controlling their environment, or at least exerts an irresistable
> force on humanity.
> Vinge wrote an article about the TS .. my copy is at:
> http://www.shinma.org/ttk/vinge.html
> His article tends to run pretty strong in the rhetoric.. I've
> been meaning to write up my own take on the TS ever since I attended
> one of his TS seminars a couple of years ago, but I haven't had the
> time.
> Some examples of scenarios which would constitute the Singularity:
> * The grey goo scenario -- [ Read Bill Moyer's post.]
> * The outbreak scenario -- [ Read Bill Moyer's post.]
> * The Homo Superior scenario -- [ Bill Moyer's post.]
> * The Borg scenario -- [ Read Bill Moyer's post.]
> * The Frankenstein scenario -- [ Bill Moyer's post.]
> I gather that Arthur is referring to the Frankenstein scenario,
> and that he is asking that whoever makes the vital innovation would
> do so in a way that assures that the superintelligent AI is benign
> towards humanity. [...] Even by very conservative estimates, it is
> likely that we will have the technology necessary for implementing
> any one of the scenarios I outlined here in no more than 20 years,
> possibly less. (My own pet figure is 12 years, but that's more of
> a back-of-the-envelope number based on blind projection of Moore's
> Law than anything supported with hard evidence.)
Arthur here -- my own not-so-pet figure is three months, because
that's how long a leave of absence I have taken in order to write
<a href="http://victoria.tc.ca/~uj797/aisource.html"> Mind.forth </a>.
> -- Bill Moyer
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fd5f7,d7ab0d5b5352afc5,start X-Google-Attributes: gidfd5f7,public X-Google-Thread: fd7c9,d7ab0d5b5352afc5,start X-Google-Attributes: gidfd7c9,public X-Google-Thread: fd6dd,d7ab0d5b5352afc5,start X-Google-Attributes: gidfd6dd,public X-Google-Thread: 1045ed,d7ab0d5b5352afc5,start X-Google-Attributes: gid1045ed,public X-Google-Thread: 102b75,d7ab0d5b5352afc5,start X-Google-Attributes: gid102b75,public X-Google-Thread: 10461e,d7ab0d5b5352afc5,start X-Google-Attributes: gid10461e,public From: uj797@victoria.tc.ca (Arthur T. Murray) Subject: Re: Technological Singularity Date: 1998/06/05 Message-ID: <35778ab9.0@news.victoria.tc.ca> X-Deja-AN: 359732690 Summary: Villagers, please do not light your firebrands and storm the castle. Keywords: brain-mind architecture, computer architecture, robot architecture Organization: Operation Mind.forth Newsgroups: sci.econ,bionet.neuroscience,comp.ai,comp.arch,comp.robotics.misc,comp.lang.forth