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<pohaku.kane@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> Zerge wrote:
>> Those $52 billion are not "shipped" out of America; they are payments
>> for services rendered. American employers willingly pay the workers for
>> their services. Foreign workers (legal or illegal) are just another
>> form of free trade from the purely economic point of view.

No.  Free trade in goods is NOT the same thing as free trade
in labor.

>> You can argue all you want against the SOCIAL problems caused by
>> illegal immigration; but economically it makes sense IF you are in
>> favor of free trade.

Baloney.

>> If you are not, then don't criticize foreign
>> workers and at the same time buy Chinese goods, for economically they
>> are equivalent.

Nope.

> This is a lie perpetrated by racist bigots. Poor frightened souls.

More stupidity.

> The fact is foreign workers spend a good deal of that money here.

The illegals that have family in Mexico spend as little as possible
here in this country.  The illegal that my mother used on her
ranch was fed by my mom and ALL the money went to Mexico
and he paid no taxes here.  Mom has passed away so you can't
prosecute her.

> They
> also pay massive amounts in taxes,

Horsecrap.   Many pay mno taes at all.  And if the wages were
higher (like to an American) even more taxes would be paid.

>and what everyone seems to forget is
> that they pay into a social security retirement system they will NOT
> ever be able to use if they are undocumented.

Many do not pay any taxes at all because they are paid under the
table.  Those that do pay FICA taxes will ONLY pay those taxes.
They will NOT pay income taxes.  And they are not spending
lots of money here.  That money us worth a lot more back home.

> The entire accusation against them is perpetrated to keep them and US
> from every cooperating, thus driving wages down for everyone.

That is the stupidist statement I've seen in many days.

> And my bet is that there isn't a single person that protests the cheap
> goods by not buying them.
>
> Kane

A little economics lesson:  If wages rise then wage earners have
more money and can buy higher priced stuff.  Actually, they can
also buy MORE stuff.

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