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"Zerge" <zerge@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> arminius wrote:
> > "Iconoclast" <Iconoclast@tiscali.co.za> wrote in message
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http://www.americanpatrol.com/GUESTCOLUMNS/DWYER/EminentDomainMAD_050702.html
> > >
> > >   Originally published in the June 26, 2005 issue of the
Alamance
> > > Independent
> > >
> > >   Eminent Domain and The "Migrating" Hordes
> > >
> > >   By Mark Andrew Dwyer - 7/2/05
> > >
> > >   Eminent domain (from Latin dominium eminens meaning:
supreme lordship)
> > is
> > > the power of the state to appropriate private property
for its own use
> > > without the owner's consent [Wikipedia]. It gives the
state, and -
> > > therefore - whoever controls it, powerful, and in some
countries,
> > draconian
> > > means to redistribute private wealth among, supposedly,
all members of the
> > > community or society. Although in the U.S. the exercise
of eminent domain
> > is
> > > restricted by prohibition in Fifth Amendment that
"private property be
> > taken
> > > for public use, without just compensation," the recent
ruling of the
> > Supreme
> > > Court of the United States (see Footnote) creates a
reasonable doubt about
> > > the extent to which such a restriction can withstand
pre-emptive pressure
> > > mounted by eminent domain's prospective beneficiaries.
> > >
> > >   This doubt is particularly disturbing in today's
America that has been a
> > > target of million man invasion of foreign (mostly,
Mexican) have-nots,
> > often
> > > referred to as "migrants," who due to their sheer
numbers and exorbitant
> > > fertility rates may soon gain enough political clout to
force use of
> > eminent
> > > domain as a vehicle of involuntary transfer of property
from wealthy
> > > Americans to the "migrating" hordes (in order to
"improve their lives," as
> > > they say). If the present "migratory" trends continue,
particularly if the
> > > taxation remains at the current levels, condemnations of
private property
> > > for public housing and infrastructure that are needed to
properly
> > > accommodate poor "migrants" and their countless kids may
become a
> > political
> > > necessity that no federal judge can resist. And since
the term "just
> > > compensation" of the language of Fifth Amendment is
equally vulnerable to
> > > court's capricious interpretation as "public use" has
been, don't hold
> > your
> > > breath if you expect to get a fair market value for your
home that your
> > city
> > > council decided to turn into an apartment complex for
four families of
> > > "migrants" (and additional relatives from abroad that
may wish to be
> > > "reunited" with these families).
> > >
> > >   Take, for instance, Los Angeles, not much more than
just a cow town with
> > > population of few thousand in the middle of 19th
century, and a megapolis
> > > inhabited by almost 4 million people and the second
(after Mexico City)
> > > largest concentration of Mexicans on Earth today. US
Census statistics
> > show
> > > that slightly less than 50% of L.A.'s population, or
about 1.7 million, is
> > > Hispanic (although some estimates suggest that there are
as many as 2.7
> > > millions Mexicans living in L.A.), some 1.3 million of
whom have settled
> > in
> > > the city in the last 15 years. The proportion of
Hispanic (mostly Mexican)
> > > pupils in L.A. Unified School District reached the
astounding 80% and is
> > > indicative of future demographic composition of the City
of Angels. With
> > > poverty rates among Hispanic "migrants" and home prices
soaring, it's not
> > > difficult to predict the pressure that will build to
redistribute private
> > > real property among the dominating but poor Mexicans as
their numbers
> > grow.
> > > And the City Council (guess, what ethnic group will have
a majority of
> > vote
> > > there?), empowered to condemn a private property by the
last week's
> > decision
> > > of the Supreme Court, will be the least likely body to
not yield to that
> > > pressure.
> > >
> > >   The above scenario is but one example of ways and
means with which the
> > > "migrating" hordes can redistribute Americans' wealth
among themselves. In
> > a
> > > country that is so vulnerable to arbitrary
interpretation of its
> > > constitution by five judges with political agendas of
their own and ruled
> > by
> > > a majority of vote (for which a proof of citizenship is
usually not
> > > required), as the U.S. is, due enforcement of the border
and immigration
> > > laws is a necessary condition for meaningful protection
of liberty and
> > > property of its citizens. If the border and the
immigration laws are not
> > > fully enforced, the only way for Americans to survive
the mass invasion of
> > > poor but prolific "migrants," a hostile take-over if you
will, and to keep
> > > their "wealth" intact, would be to abandon birth control
altogether, like
> > so
> > > many "migrants" do, and enter a spiral of exponential
population growth.
> > > This would resemble the nuclear weapon race that
characterized the by-gone
> > > Cold War era - a strategy that once was deemed losing
for all parties
> > > involved in the race.
> > >
> > >   Wouldn't it be much better to keep the invading hordes
out? The eminent
> > > domain law is one of the many reasons for resounding
"Yes" to this
> > question.
> > > It may well be the most important one.
> > >
> > >   FOOTNOTE. The term "public use" in the Fifth Amendment
used to be
> > narrowly
> > > interpreted as projects of obviously public nature such
as public roads or
> > > schools, but not anymore. The 5-4 majority of the
Supreme Court decided
> > last
> > > Thursday (June 23, 2005) in Susette Kelo et al. versus
City of New London
> > et
> > > al. that a city can condemn (seize with just
compensation, that is) a
> > > private property for projects that, although not
obviously public, would
> > > increase city's tax revenues or boost employment. "As a
result, cities now
> > > have wide power to bulldoze residences for projects such
as shopping malls
> > > and hotel complexes in order to generate tax revenue"
(quotation from
> > > "Supreme Court Rules Cities May Seize Homes," by Hope
Yen, The Washington
> > > Post, June 23, 2005,
> > >
> >
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/23/AR2005062300783_pf.html )
> > > . Although a vast majority of critics of the Court's
ruling fear that, as
> > a
> > > result of that decision, wealthy entrepreneurs may be
able to de facto
> > evict
> > > fixed income citizens from their homes now, I see the
future Marxist-style
> > > "social justice" as being more likely to use the ruling
as a precedent. If
> > > generating tax revenue or boosting employment is enough
for condemnation
> > why
> > > would one expect that cheap housing for poor "migrant"
workers and their
> > > families is not? Just remember that out of five justices
that were in
> > favor
> > > of the ruling, four (Ginsburg, Stevens, Breyer and
Souter) concurred with
> > Al
> > > Gore in Florida recount controversy in 2000, and one
(Kennedy) was a
> > > notorious swing vote that often sided with the liberal
faction of the
> > Court.
> >
> > Fine article with an approach new to most of us.
> >
> > Hank
> > >
> > >
>
>  "If generating tax revenue or boosting employment is enough
for
> condemnation why would one expect that cheap housing for
poor "migrant"
> workers and their families is not?"
>
> Because the objective is precisely to GENERATE MORE REVENUE
for the
> gov. Cheap housing for the poor would NOT generate more
revenue, would
> it? The conclusion is baseless.

  Our US govt is both corrupt and insane.   It allows the
mexicans because corporate interests want slave labor..
slave labor pays very little tax.   If you tax this class they
starve to death... and you are correct corporate america and
the US govt doesnt give a damn if these people live in
cardboard boxes under the freeway.

However as mexicans come to dominate in Los Angles and if
awarded citizenry they can and will vote their own
interestss... we will see then LA decline to the standards of
their mother country..thats just natural.

is it the fault of the mexicans?   Not hardly.

It is the fault of an utterly courrupt US govt that has
bloated to the extreme, pays its civil servants 5 to 10x what
the supporting tax payers get in retirement..and will do
anything to sustain its fat ass...even destroy the nation.

So it needs a buch more citiizens to work themselves to death
so it can tax them to death and that will be easy with a
national sales tax on all consumables.


Lacking that, and with half of our work force retiring and not
paying taxes anymore but instead drawing social security the
US govt and its fat ass retired civil 'servants' will be
forced to cut back 70 to 80% or hyperinflate the currency...
a short term solution insuring total disaster.

So the mexicans will have to be allowed free access to the US
if the nation is to survive... unless... the current citizens
have the balls to vote govt cuts to the 70% level...and that
wont happen with so many on the dole either as civil servants,
or related to civil servants, or working for companies with
govt contracts...

So ...accordingly the US as with all other nations is due to
morph into its next phase...a leveling with the rest of
humanity.   Our 'elite' see this and are increasingly set up
in compounds and in isolated or isolatable communities.


What is a working man to do?   Well lemme see...(thinks
hard)... ahhhhh... here it is...a solution.  Get two jobs,
work harder...and pay the rent and taxes so the civil servants
can retire at age 51 with 3 times what he makes in wages.

That way US govt will be stable into the future...and be damn
sure to 'buy' a house so that if you dont pay taxes down to
the last dime the glorious govt can threaten to put you and
your wife and kids and aging grandmother onto the street...
that way you will have incentive to do the two jobs even as
your health fails.

Not exactly the american dream...but then the american dream
originally included an absolutely minimal govt funded entirely
on import duty's no tax on the citizens.

Thats gone now, the nation will be next...first by dilution
from those willing to be slaves for a living... then loss of
empire due to a failing human capitol and incentive...then
being a surf to larger and more powerful nations...
according to the CIA's latest report. in 10 years, that will
be India and China.






Phil Scott


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