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Re: Theory of beliefs, belief fields

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From: djbonsignore
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 03:18
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One of the birthdays must be after April 1991, very near that date or
maybe July 1992? They have been playing with Mendel, black hair +
blonde hair => blonde hair + black hair => ? I think black hair would
prevale, actually a dichotomy, 3/4 black hair, 1/4 blonde hair,
throwing in very straight grandfather s nose, combined with slightly
dropped tip and somewhat rounded noses. I dont know about the other
grandfather... maybe there wasnt much variation because of easthetic
considerations in sexual attraction. Also tall and short would have
the same pattern, color ranging from white to pink with flesh in
between. Of course, if their noses were modified to _hide_ family
resemblance... In 1992 I was in Economics; in late 1995 I had a full
set of programming tools; in 1997 an excellent business plan, in 2000
the company had big international projects and fairly advanced tech
and I had my patentable ideas; in 2004 I published my music and other
projects... then? How come? Eh?

Looks like my point was missed altogether: Lu is and his father had an
unfair advantage because they could reach Echeverria, or the Var gas
could reach the sons of Fox, while I was totally apart from any
political figure, the last one I met being Zedillo and that was just
casually, though maybe he would remember as I **forecasted** he would
be (next) Mexican president and he was.

It has to be acknowledged that without a _realistic_ understanding of
telepathy, schizophrenia, its cultures and necessarieties, social
research, economics, international relations, politics, cultural
studies, psychology, psichiatry, medical research have to be revised
to account for the hidden variable and to make it explicit.

The thesis of these writings is that many schizophrenias are the
result of purposeful and methodic destabilization by selfconscious
telepaths, while others are the result of information processing
disfunctionalities that can ultimately be technically solved, leaving
behind a true source of destabilization from objectively damaged and
diseased but functional brains. The other thesis is that current
solutions to the whole problem are only acceptable for a given
technological level, but considering a higher technological envelope
there are is than one hardware technology solutions beyond medical,
social and chemical ones.

Looks like the problem was that it was sold the idea that being ME
would mean to become short of World Emperor and of course sex with
anybody would be easy, so to achieve that status of (fill in adequate
uberman concept for your milieu), certain events have to occur, some
of them criminal, before the (my) identity can be recognized and the
fantasy fulfilled. Only this idea was sold to several people, groups,
at the same time! So it becomes a recursive simultaneous phenomenon
those who conceived the story cannot really control. People reading
this should stop paying attention to that story and concentrate in
normal, lets call them country, facts and events as the character taht
was created is just a fiction and incidentally is a category that is
achieved by many people
throughout the world in normal ways, that is, through normal workings
of the economy.

That the recognition of aural signals has to involve language centers
in the brain gives schizophrenic phenomena some of its characteristic
behaviours. Some aural signals, voices, can indeed be stopped by the
simple resource of deafening your ears with your hands. It can be
postulated that near signals will be interpreted first by aural areas
of the brain, while distant signals will be interpreted by other,
primed, areas of the brain in sensitive brains. Deafening ears would
expose those farther voices, granting them more attention once the
more immediate sound
stimulus are blocked. Music also can divert attention away from
voices, providing some relief; here lies the myth of music calming
beasts, a sarcastic name for schizophrenics becoming wild with voices
but being able to control them by swamping them with music. No doubt
heavy rock music and even symphonic music had in their inception the
intention of toning down the impact of voices in hearers. The more
complex music is, the more these aural signals will be turned into
noise, as only some level of complexity can be handled at any time by
attention processes. Paradoxically, to some schizophrenics the voices
provide such meanings in life that shutting them
up is anathematic (note the etimology here has a pun: an, no - thema,
theme, no theme; in a dogma, anathemas, forbidden themes, can be
related to the fact of not hearing voices that provide a theme, while
at the same time in music the main sequence of interest is called a
theme, so music becomes anathematic to schizos because it leaves them
with no theme, by providing a theme in musical terms...). Stable
schizophrenics will shun music as it hinders their informative system
and leaves them out of discussions, the hearing of voices being the
main structure giver in their lives from which they derive meaning, so
the more meaningful a discussion is for some schizophrenic, the more
music will be an obstacle. Conversely, music will attract schizos for
whom voices provide little meaning or interest, being a resource
(musicotherapy) to control unwanted contents. Paradoxically too,
hearing loud, heavy music would them have the meaning of being
schizophrenic, a usually desirable message to give by non
schizophrenics! Schizophrenics then would see musicians as opposers,
even more so than psychiatrists, a relatively new social role meant to
displace the historical role of priests. What for normal people is
pleasure, music, for schizophrenics becomes a danger, particularly
when their particular schizophrenic culture emphasizes hearing voices
as a way to be informed of hidden, life threatening situations. In
this case, much in the sense of secret service agents, schizophrenia
is as much a tool as a way of life, so music provides no function in
their life; it is easy to picture a James Bond watching an art
exhibition in full alert mode, but not as easy to think him as
enjoying peacefully some intimate music.

Other expressions of schizophrenia depending on the triggering of
aural brain centers fall in the realm of torture. Torture as a
restraining of hand movement has, _at_least_ symbolically, the meaning
of not letting the victim block the voices it hears. Those voices have
to deliver their content to have their effect, content that is
purposefully transmitted to the victim, the victim cannot deafen his
or her ears, _much_less_ attempt to deafen himself physically! The
restraining of speech also has that symbolic meaning, beyond others
and beyond an actual intent in that sense, that of not letting the
victim swamp voices with his or her own voice, much less let him or
her engage in its own form of dementia mode telepathy. It cannot be
said that these restraints have only that purpose for torturers, but
at least some of them will consciously apply them on that premise,
that is, torturers for whom schizophrenia is an important phenomenon
as opposed to those for whom torture is an expression of other
forms of psychosis. It is interesting that straitjackets also have
that effect, apparently to protect the mad person from itself, but at
the cost of not letting it use that last protection against the voices
that may be the reason for the expressions of violence. In the
extreme, mutilation is a permanent **solution** against that defense
(note the perversion of the statement, reflecting the perversion of
the phenomenon), as the victim will be permanently unable to silence
the voices physically, again a phenomenon that has to be understood
symbolically in this context, abstractly, as actual motivations and
intentions will be a complex lump of half expressed impulses (like in
considering the myth of canibalism or really rational purposes of
brutalization in the mix of decisions that lead to some person s
mutilation beyond that required by medical therapy, an area that, in
fact, should also be seen as suspicious in some cases). Also
paradoxical, or rather ironic, is the use of mutilation as punishment,
particulaly mutilation of hands, as the person wont be able to
exercise that first defense against hearing voices (always implicit),
but only partially, so he wont lose the _ADVANTAGE_ of hearing voices
_again_. That this form of punishment is linked to thievery is no
coincidence, but the meaning is not the superficial one of not letting
the thief substract the belongings of others because he lost his hand,
but the deep one of not having used the schizophrenic s voice
advantage successfully (must be granted that lonely theft is almost
always opportunistic or traitorous, while organized theft has to be a
socially organized act). Schizophrenics are then considered inherent
thieves because the voices they hear, recognized as telepathy or real
voices, can give them the advantage to rob
others. What is punished by mutilation is not the fact of crime, but
the fact of not being successful as a criminal (a very usual cynic
statement). In the end the criminal is only hampered, though also in a
deeply schizophrenic interpretation it is ascended to the next level,
that or murder, as prothesis tend to become lethal weapons. That women
have a real tendency toward schizophrenia as normality is not
considered by this forms punishment, though of course it explains the
prevalence of torture among women and mutilations in men as
historically evident phenomena. Currently Occidental civilization
shuns both cases from social view, so real prevalence should be
considered a real issue in social studies. Yet that men are only half
disabled by mutilation as punishment for not using their **gift**
successfully while women are totally disabled through torture does
speak that in one case it is the aural, verbal nature of schizophrenia
what counts, even the utilitarian aspect, while in the other case it
is the sexual and self content what matters most...

It is that somebody is being given the advantage over me purposefully
simply by letting him have a computer available the whole day, the way
I was living before I was turned prisoner.

I am still protecting my identity by using both names, though I truly
think that the name **confusion** is over. It shouldnt matter much
now, but self preservation is the strongest of programs in my mind.

Shia LaBoeuf does have a meaning translated freely into and from
Mexican, it means: it means the dumb. Which makes me think...

That I was being hacked in the National Library... very possible, this
begun as a hacking problem in 2003 when I realized my sites were being
sabotaged. Thought crossing borders would be enough, but it wasnt.

Fabrizio J Bonsignore now Danilo J Bonsignore
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Subject: Re: Theory of beliefs, belief fields
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