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Article #2565Re: Theory of beliefs, belief fields
From: Fabrizio J Bonsignore
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:37
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:37
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In the GEVH(J) the game consists in not arriving to a judge... the game is similar to that of crossing the river, cannibals and misionaries cannot cross together, eventually all G and H turned into E, leaving V alone if H doesnt play well. Some level of role sharing is part of the game. V s goal is then to distinguish E from G with the help of H. E have to keep H at bay and turned V into E. A (J) is always implied but never consulted! Incredible that these people would call themselves judges... Several ways to implement this game can be considered, taht is, several rules. Note that specifying this game this way made me think of Cabbage patch dolls... should be understandable now, a woman artifically turned fat through bioterrorism, her crpse hidden under a cabagge patch... the case was know, even the murderer and names, but the the hidden channel turned it into a doll product... great idea. Doll means a woman brutalized woman. It is again the expression of men fighting their mother, a Freudian conflict, Lets define a (concurrent) algebra G over all chains of words G:(W,H + | _ =) where W, H are chains of words w1w2w3... h1h2h3... there is a number n of chains occurring simultaneously. For two simulatneous chains w1w2w3... + h1h2h3... we can define operators in general as: +: w1h2w3... | : w1w2h2w3... _: h1h2h3... =: (w1h1)(w2h2)(w3h3)... This algebra expresses telepathic and freudian slips. Operation + is the typical freudian slip, where a word is misspelled giving a new meaning to the whole phrase, that is, some intended word by the speaker is substituted by a word heard consciously or unconsciously in the hidden channel; this is the typical slip characterized by freud as giving some unconscious message; note that some freudian slips swap words. Operation | intercalates words from the hidden channel in the speech of the speaker, the speaker unaware of it; in this case the original speech is meaningful, that is, w1w2 w3.... recover the original word stream so this operation has a partial inverse operator; the hidden channel content is expressed by the intercalated words, which can be distinguished as they themselves form a separate message. Operation _ would be total substitution of the speaker s speech; the original stream is lost and the hearer can only hear the hidden channel, which is true of mediums and trance like states of mind (this operation can also model the case were there is no underlying speech stream but the hidden channel is heard nonetheless as coming from the hypothetical speaker). Operation = intends to purpport that both channels are heard at the same time by the hearer. Both streams occur, a schizo hearer would hear both or only the hiddne channel, a normal hearer would only perceive once stream. Note that for two streams occurring concurrently, some operations may be confused depending on the hearer s abilities, so _ and = may be interchangeable, in which case they can be used to model threshold conditions. | is informative, + is misleading to the hearer. In general there wouldnt be a one to one correspondence between two the two streams, so some stocasticity (indetermination) has to be assumed for big numbers of operation samplings. + may be under control by strong telepaths, strongness depending on the relation between the telepath and target, while | would be totally indetermined and may or may not be noticed by the hearer, though for non schizos would be most informative; some unconscious selection by the speaker would take place in selecting what words are included in the resulting stream. The last two operations would be to blame in coflicts between a target speaker and an schizo(phrenic) or normal hearer, as the hearer would get a message very different from that intended by the speaker, though this effect may or may not be in control of the telepath. (this is what I was supposed to write yesterday... the other ideas I reserve for later). Fabrizio J Bonsignore now Danilo J Bonsignore
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