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Re: Theory of beliefs, belief fields

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From: Fabrizio J Bonsignore
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 13:12
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On Feb 24, 12:00 am, "Fabrizio J Bonsignore"
<djbonsign...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Torture may leave the torturer as marked as the victim under a burst
> transmisison of pain if the torturer is already sensitive or schizo.
> The effect would be similar to that of face change, the face being the
> most likely body area to be marked that way, and this mark would be
> permanent. It would explain winces of pain and sudden paralysis or
> other partial face changes, and can be considered as one of the
> **magical** effects. This effect would be deeper if the psychological
> reality of the torturer is also affected and guilt or other deep
> emotions sought are reinforced. It may be one of the motivations for
> torture, precisely that of changing face. As with other **magical**
> effects of telepathy and schizophrenia, parallel consequences to those
> achieve by transmission or pure telepathy would be normal among
> schizophrenics, approaching by physical techniques, either self
> applied or applied by somebody else, the marks the states and
> consequences of strong fields or very motivated schizophrenic
> activities. So the cliche of the tortured torturer or monstruous
> torturer would be closer to reality than a will to characterize the
> effects of the abnormal behaviour. This truth about torturers is also
> reflected by murderers exhibiting diverse traits of their activity,
> and can be investigated statistically through photographs of convicted
> criminals, before and after, correlated to diverse characteristics of
> their crime. All this realities can be explained both as the
> **magical** effect of (sudden)  transmissions of neural content
> between telepaths and schizos as physical, _cultural_ consequences of
> their activities. So a torturer would exhibit detectable damage of the
> exertion of physical force, or the _culturally_ determined marks of
> being a torturer applied by his companions (mafia bonds), meant to
> imitate the more difficult to achieve altered states of mind to mind
> direct transmission of contents. Some of ths contents may include
> impossible to imitate **messages** from areas of the brain that would
> distinguish the altered state and the imitated condition. Deep brain
> messages are possible, so torturers would look particularly tortured,
> even without marks or winces; mass murderers would look particularly
> dead or zombied; forced witnesses to crimes or murders would look
> particularly sad; homosexuals may look more feminine than normal even
> without apparent hormonal changes, etc. Of course there is always the
> possibility that the (burst) transmission effects permanent changes,
> programming, of the receiving brain or cause permanent imbalances
> detectable through analysis (this would be true of purely mental
> effects that dont include nerve transmissions, as nervous activity
> would imply a _path_ or transmission). An example of permanent changes in brain processing would be some forms of ticks, though some of them may be the result of a constant communication with somebody else, like trying to brush away a non present physical defect.
[The robotic or dead face of
> serial killers or paid assassins can be explained, beyond conscious
> training, by the conscious act to erase those marks, self inflicted
> facial surgeries or other forms of facial change, including self
> applied recipes a la bioterrorism. NOTE THAT SOME EXTERNAL SCHIZOPHRENIC LIKE MARKINGS ACT AS SIDE EFFECTS, SO A PARTICULAR BLUEPRINT CAN BE APPLIED TO MAKE THE PERSON LOOK _AS IF_ IT IS A SCHIZO TYPE WITHOUT BEING SO. SOME TRAITS WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO SIMULATE, WHILE OTHERS (LIKE 19TH CENTURY CALLED ANIMAL MAGNETISM) WOULD BE INDEPENDENT OF HEARING VOICES.]

The binomium telepathy-schizophrenia has to be understood as a system
similar to that of the speech system. It would consist of four
components: reception (ear), emission (mouth), potency (lungs) and
processing (brain). Deaf people dont learn to speak, even if they can
emit noises, not all hearers speak, though normally non deaf people do
speak and learn to do so in a relatively short time. Telepathy would
be essentially a trained, learned ability once any of the several ear
systems has developed or opens up for the first time. For verbal
communications self-feedback would be the sign that a schizo has
learned _speech_, so while transmitting, the schizo ear would get
feedback of the speech emmited; this would not be true of other, low
level, messages. This doesnt imply though that a brain is transmitting
while the person has not developed what we call schizophrenia, and
there is no guarantee that both directions will be developed or
developed at the same time, that is, some telepaths are schizos while
some schizos wont learn to telepath, giving rise to different
classifications that are missing in normal psycopathology definitions
and practice. Potency would be then an altogether phenomenon, linked
to processing in the case of the schizo ear, linked to brain neural
configurations in the case of speech, the field of telepathic carriers
(what has been historically called aura), though telepathy being a
matter of encodings would also be affected in its outward potency by
the coherence of the emitted signal (concentration). That both sides
of the communication system are somewhat dissasociated leaves a big
ground for intermediate brain processing connecting them in diverse
and even strange ways, some effects seemingly being automatic, others
totally voluntary and under control of the individual, which would be
the origin for the several ears, for different conditionings.

Looks like a lost another day... my internal count says today should
be Friday, not Saturday. Wouldnt  be the first time I suspect I was
given sedatives in McDonalds coffee.

There is nothing I can do with these encounters, I cant take
responsibility of anybody because I am still living like a prisoner,
the same disturbance is still present.

Fabrizio J Bonsignore now Danilo J Bonsignore
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From: "Fabrizio J Bonsignore" <djbonsignore@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Theory of beliefs, belief fields
Date: 24 Feb 2007 05:12:56 -0800
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