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Article #2623Re: Theory of beliefs, belief fields
From: Fabrizio J Bonsignore
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:00
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:00
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NO, no, no, no. I am attacked in my personal cleanliness and grooming
and social presence. It is disabling and was done purposefully through
bureaucracy. I am a sitting scareduckcrow!
Following the same evolutionary advantage procedure, it can be argued
that individuals practicing speech self addressing would live more
offspring than silent individuals in non social circumstances. If, in
addition, that self addressing had the effect of transmitting, non
purposefully, the uttered words to other sensitive individulas there
would be another advantage in that those individuals would experience
less loses from geting lost and wandering too far away from the group.
This speaks of a weak control, in that speaking to oneself can result
in telepathy without incurring in the cost of activating different
areas of the brain for the same purpose. It must not be forgotten that
these evolutionary advantages dont show themselves as necessary
individual chracteristics but as available variations in the presence
of diversity, so they dont mean deterministic behaviour but rather
propensities. What matters in self addressed speech is that it does not
imply the receiver of the thought is the self, BUT, that there is an
interlocutor more or less implied, taht is, more or less concrete. It
would provide an avenue to train the brain in emitting thought at a
distance, reaching the intended interlocutor. As in other parts of this
discussion, it must not be forgotten that on the other side of the
line, so to speak, must be present a sensitive brain, a sensitive
receptor, so self addressed speech does not imply certainty of being
heard but only probability. This behaviour is characteristic in
children, and would help explaining several phenomena that may be
copnfused with mental health issues but which are in fact product of a
dialogue in which the self addressed child is tuned by some trained
brain and then answered by it, which would not be norm but common
enough to be noticeable. Popular saying implies that speaking to
oneself is a symptom of madness, even if it has at least two notable
historical examples, Demostenes and Schopenhauer, that give it other
meanings, namely, practicing rethoric and oratory and givin moral
lessons, in the latter case. But this popular knowledge of speaking to
oneself being madnees does point to the possibility of being a path
toward schizo-phrenia, telepath and full duplex dialogue at a distance.
In other words, as one main point of these writings is that psychosis
per se is a product of social interaction except in the presence of
true physical brain damage, self speaking can be seen as a personal
training, eventually providing access to speech to the outer words
beyond the use of sound. This can be justified as the brain itself
making use of that self input, already known by the conscious mind, to
locate areas of the brain where to deposit it, to make sense of it when
sense is already implied as there is some meaning attached to the
uttered words by the same conscious mind! So the, lets call it, meaning
generator activating the psychomotor language areas would send that
stream of more or less meaningful symbols to input, same lanaguage
psychonotor areas, only in input mode, and then the brain sending them
tio new, unexplored areas of the brain as meaning is already there from
the outset and that inpit, hwile being acknoledged, is not truly
needed. This does speak of a particular brain structure model.
Yesa, I found an alter ego... a hippie boy, even with drawing
instruments (maybe those cheap colors that disnt last in the store and
I couldnt buy?), with longer face but looking like I do... I wonder if
all those limos would be made to think he is I?
(copy of previous post)
Funny, cant remember if I started Dramatis Personae VI. Maybe it is
because I am sleeping sitting up when I can sleep at all, more now that
cold is coming back and was rainy and I have to stay hours sitting in
some place just making time or getting warm. Yesternight I was so
awaken in my sleep that I ... a huge ORCHESTRAL WORK. Woke up around
3:05-3:10 in the morning. Hope somebody with sensitive ear hear it and
notate it down! A bug , simple climax, with cymbals, arriving at a one
note male s chorus with some wind effect nehind and very unobstrusive
bass strings. It had lots of metals before....
This is a diagram to steal intellectual property:
C-->D--------
| --> | | |
(I) p p p
1 2 3
(I) is the ideator, D are the distributors, C is an optional carrier,
while p1, p2.. are the plagiarists. D must be able to get feedback from
I. Using the invisible channel allowws D to know (I) without making any
relation between (I) and p1.... But then D must know at least the pi s
if there is no C, or both pi s and (I) if (I) is a (full) duplex. Some
triangulation may occurr. Solution is simple if not easy: find
claimants pi for claims of C and trace back socially to the most
obvious D. Triangulation would make it more difficult, but then it can
be handled as some set near D.
The more this Reality is denied, the more schizophrenic a society
becomes in more than one aspect. But then at the core of it is a
necesseary element to explain the diversity of societies and their
political structure, along with several human phenomena. Note that for
this author knowing this reality as an explained reality doesnt mean
that its effects will go away, mainly clear from a piont of view of
costs, but not acknowledging it leads to very real social costs, loses
and some other worrisome situations...
I arrived at the point where I have so much material that this medium
and sessions cant let work it comfortably. I need ordering
capabilities. It was sort of urgent because of so mant fallacies;
unfotunately I should have been in the computer moretime. Really
worrying is a HIDDEN genociding social therapy, probably implemented
through rich people in open societies and through downright army in
dictatorships, when to all accounts the REAL solution is technological,
tech, and there are other solutions involving migrations and other
human setups...
Fabrizio J Bonsignore now Danilo J Bonsignore
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