🚀 go-pugleaf

On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 07:36:00 -0500, "robert j. kolker"
<nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote:

>royls@telus.net wrote:
>
>> As land is not a product of labor, it cannot be rightly owned.  But
>> all governments administer possession and use of the land within their
>> borders; civilization depends on it.  The only question is, do they do
>> so in the interests of the governed, or of a small, privileged,
>
>The government always acts in the interests of those that have the 
>power.

That is obviously just flat false.  Your orotund pronouncements on
matters of which you are so obviously completely ignorant are amusing,
but not really interesting.

>Government IS power. All this twaddle about of the people, for 
>the people and by the people is just.... twaddle.

Only to the servants of evil.

>There has never been a 
>totally honest or just government and there never will be.

Zero tolerance is unscientific nonsense.

>There are two 
>kinds of government --- bad and worse. Check out the history books and 
>see that I am telling the truth.

Wrong.  The history books show clearly that a government has to be
very bad indeed to be worse than no government.

>If you want the people at large to be in charge, then you need an 
>anarchistic system.

Anarchy: the rule of a thousand tyrants.

>Of course the constant warfare and plunder might get 
>a little depressing after a while, but what the hell. Let the People Rule!

The people seem to be a ittle more intelligent about how to rule
effectively than you are.

>> wealthy minority?
>
>What you have described is effective ownership.

No.  As I have informed you before, there is a difference between an
owner and a trustee.

>You say the government 
>controls access to the land and the manner of its dispositiong. For all 
>practical purposes that is ownership.

As usual, you are just flat wrong.  A trustee controls access to and
disposition of an asset, but does not own it.

>Any State with enough guns to 
>enforce Eminent Domain, owns the turf.

A feudal government owns the turf, as in Saudi Arabia and many other
historical examples.  But more civilized arrangements place government
in the role of trustee, not owner.

-- Roy L