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Re: Home for All, polemic development policy

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From: The Trucker
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 20:57
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Ted Morris wrote:

> [snip]
> 
> Jeez you ought to stick to physics. The government prints most of the
> money (the banks do the rest electronically). And if you think the
> government has no "product" why don't you move to Iraq where their
> "product" is somewhat lacking.
 
>> Hey stooopid, government doesn't have any money.

Actually, government has _ALL_ the money.  Money is created when
government spends it into existence.  You may possess gold or wheat
or whale's teeth.  But money is what the guy with the sword says it
is.  And government _IS_ the guy with the sword.

>>  Government produces
>> nothing. 

Government is in the enforcement business.  They produce security
and property rights protections since they have all the guns and swords
and since they supposedly act in regard to the will of the people.

>> The only money government has is stolen from your. 

Government may well steal your labors, and it does so by printing
money.  But there is no need for government to steal what it can
create at will.

>> A
>> Liberal feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he pays off
>> with your money.

Most "liberals" are concerned with _justice_.  And yes, they understand
egoists/conservatives are only interested in force and power of the
aristocracy and the nobility.

>> Republicans steal from what you have, Democrats
>> steal from what you might have.

This claim is, at best, inappropriate in that Republicans deficit spend
so as to take what you might have in the future.  Democrats of late
seem to get their financial support from letting the economy bloom
instead of making war on every two bit nation on the planet. 

>>  The difference is hunger vs. famine.

The difference is that Republicans are authoritarian ass kissers and
Democrats aren't.

>> 
>> Uncel Al says, "The money I make belongs to me and my family, not to a
>> government stooge who takes a cut and dumps the rest on slum bunnies
>> for squirting out babies."

Uncle Al would do well to understand that welfare in all its guises
(other than corporate welfare) is less than 6% of the discretionary
budget, while "defense" is more than 70%.  So to claim that government
steals from the rich so as to fund welfare illustrates abject stupidity
or a very real talent at ignoring facts and/or lying.

-- 
"I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers of society but
the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough
to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy
is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion by
education." - Thomas Jefferson.  http://GreaterVoice.org
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