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Steven Mix <stevenmix@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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> Pete Zakel wrote in message <7t11qd$gus$1@news.cadence.com>...
> >In article <7su3v8$78e$3@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com> "Steven Mix"
> <stevenmix@prodigy.net> writes:
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> >You, on the other hand, would likely be able to use crack or meth or
heroin
> >as moderately as you used cigarettes, were they legal.
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> I did not use cigarettes moderately.  I was a pack a day smoker
> of Camels, the toughest brand out there, 20mg tar and nicotine,
> as I recall.  I smoked those sticks down to the butts, and I inhaled
> often and deeply, not one of these guys who lets the butt burn in
> the ashtray.  But I quit.  It was the hardest thing I ever did, but I
> did it.  I had to put my entire active life aside to do it, but that's
> what it took.
>

what ? No one held a gun to your head ?  No one put you in jail and forced
rehab ?

You didn't kill nayone to pay your habit ?

Wow...and guess what ?  This vile drug is legal....

wonder what would have happened had it been prohibited like coke and meth ?


> Not the same with alcohol.  I drank heavily for years to the point of
> puking every time.  That was every weekend, Friday and Saturday
> nights.  I was by all definitions based on observation of behavior,
> an out-of-control alcoholic.  I enjoyed getting shitfaced, and every
> time I was puking I wished I would just die instead, because it's not
> a comfortable thing to do.  But I kept doing it, out of habit, and I
> enjoyed the drunkenness part of it in the early evenings, before I
> went beyond my limit.
>

what ? No one held a gun to your head ?  No one put you in jail and forced
rehab ?

You didn't kill nayone to pay your habit ?

Wow...and guess what ?  This vile drug is legal too....

are you begining to get my point yet ?



> But when I quit, I just stopped.  I stopped going out and going to
> the store, and drinking.  I missed the beer, for awhile, but that was
> a social habit kind of thing.  And I missed the buzz.  But it was no
> big deal at all to quit.
>

what ? Jail isn't what forced you to quite ?

Funny...most drug users go through the same thing..they use, then stop....


> I guess both were addictions, to some degree, but their effect on
> me was totally different.  So it's not a genetic predisposition.  It's
> the drug.  If I had a cigarette today, I would be a smoker again, no
> doubt about it.  So after a seven-year tobacco-free life, I would be
> right back in the addiction, a pack a day.  It's happened to me
> before, when I had quit cold turkey for a shorter time.
>

so ?  Should we control tobacco by making it illegal ?

Why not ?  If it is that bad ?


> But alcohol is not a problem.  I have a beer now and then, one beer,
> or two.  Like a normal light drinker.  Every 6 or 8 months, I guess.
> I just do not have an interest in it like before.  I could go back to
> heavy drinking, but I don't hardly even think about it.
>

yet for some it is a very real problem...most alcoolics will be back full
force with a single drink, much like you with tobacco....should we make
alcoholillegal too then  ?

Why not ?



> The drug is the key, in combination with the addict.  You can't say
> each person has a similar addiction propensity for all drugs.  It's
> not true.  And as bad as I was with tobacco, I would NEVER have
> let my life go downhill the way I routinely see happen to crack,
> heroin, and meth addicts.
>

how do you know this ?  In other areas in other times, when tobacco was hard
to get or porhibited, p[eople killed for a smoke.


> Cocaine never did anything for me, as little as I used it.  But neither
> did marijuana the first couple times.  But I have no idea what crack,
> heroin, or meth would do to me.  After my experience with tobacco,
> I know for damn sure I am not going to try to find out.
>

cool...and not a sin;ge person had to put a gun to your head to make you
think this way...wow.

Why don't we handle other drugs with such forthought ?




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