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Article #190Re: Student attitudes
From: Tilo Levante
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:14
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:14
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In article <1992Dec16.151314.17428@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>, mroussel@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Marc Roussel) writes: |> >If the physics department teaches calculus, what are the mathematicians |> >going to do? |> |> If the physics department teaches physics (including calculus) to |> its students, the mathematics department can teach mathematics to its |> students in the way it sees fit. It can also offer courses to students |> who are just plain interested in the subject. The current system serves no one |> particularly well. Even when there are separate courses for math |> majors, departments such as physics apply considerable pressure to keep |> the contents of these courses consistent with those of the "math for |> physical scientists" courses. This is not done maliciously; the physics |> department often just thinks that a properly designed (by physics |> standards) "math for mathematicians" course is good for their students. |> Unfortunately, it's bad for the math students and not that great for the |> physics students either. I also work as teaching assistant in a physical chemistry lab course and can agree with your argument from that view. But on the other hand, I think that already now, the connections between different departments are very very weak. For students, the only contact to "neighbor" sciences and the departments are only through these courses. I think it is a good training for students to learn things from a different view. I myself studied Computer Science and we had to take the same courses as the math-students for a bachalor degree. This good basic education in mathematics helped me much in physical chemistry. The courses like "math for chemists" are (at least from my point of view) bad, because they assume, that a chemist can not learn the therory and tries to give many, many cooking recipe, without conection. I belive that most chemists are not able to give a good lecture about mathematics. Tilo
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Newsgroups: sci.edu Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!mcsun!chsun!bernina!nmr.lpc.ethz.ch!tilo From: tilo@nmr.lpc.ethz.ch (Tilo Levante) Subject: Re: Student attitudes Message-ID: <1992Dec17.101456.23362@bernina.ethz.ch> Sender: news@bernina.ethz.ch (USENET News System) Organization: NMR-Group, Physical Chemistry Lab., ETH-Zuerich, Switzerland References: <1992Dec14.004705.1811@moksha.uucp> <1992Dec15.151923.5433@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> <92350.162157HASSLER@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> <1992Dec16.151314.17428@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:14:56 GMT Lines: 40