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Article #21Re: What's happening with programmed learning/teaching machines?
From: Herman Rubin
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:08
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:08
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In article <1992Jul29.012704.23784@uvm.edu> cavrak@emba-news.uvm.edu.UUCP (Steve Cavrak) writes:
>From article <13643@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>, by steffen@mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu (David Steffen):
> ... Teaching machines simply automated this process.
> This seemed like a good idea at the time, it still seems like a
> good idea to me, and given the wide availability of computers,
> seems much more practical now than then. Does anyone know
> what ever happened to this concept? Has it been discredited
> in educational circles, has it fallen between the cracks, or
> is it in widespread use, and everyone knows about it but me?
>While not totally "discredited", it certainly has passed out out vogue.
>There are a number of things that are "wrong" (i.e. limiting) about
>it.
>- Skinner, who was very instrumental in proposing the original models,
>was quite insistant that the number of "stimulus - response" pairs
>required in getting to a level of competence was quite large. He
>estimated something like 100,000 arithmetic "problems" to reach a 3rd
>grade level.
This exemplifies well what can be taught with programmed learning;
manipulations and nothing else.
..................
>- most of learning is not "rote" memorization or "stimulus - response"
>but "model acquisition". People try to understand what is going on
>about them, how things work, and what they can do next. Jerome
>Bruner, a colleague of Skinner across the street, was one of the
>people to point out the difference between "teaching" and "learning".
Unfortunately, at this time the great bulk of material presented is
exactly stimulus-response. It is trying to make humans act like
computers. What is needed in education is concepts. There is a
big amount of talk of transfer of training; what I have seen on
this is either negative, or it is application.
I was on the faculty at Michigan State University when the then
president tried to get the various departments to adopt computer
courses. I do not know if any did; it would have required many
hours of manpower to produce the materials, and they would not be
useful in 2-3 years.
--
Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
Phone: (317)494-6054
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!gatech!purdue!mentor.cc.purdue.edu!pop.stat.purdue.edu!hrubin From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) Newsgroups: sci.edu Subject: Re: What's happening with programmed learning/teaching machines? Summary: What should be; they are not good for much Message-ID: <55455@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Date: 29 Jul 92 18:08:01 GMT References: <13643@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> <1992Jul29.012704.23784@uvm.edu> Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department Lines: 50