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Article #180Re: Neurophone - Real?? I hope so but am afraid not.
From: billb
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 02:26
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 02:26
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Bob Masta wrote: > However, there are some "electrophonic" effects that > have been known as curiosities for about 100 years. > By proper voltage application to tissue, you can actually > make the tissue vibrate, creating regular old acoustic > sound which can then be heard by a normal ear. At the U. of Rochester around 1980, Rick Razdan (later founded ISCAN) and I played with a crude Neurophone down in the basement of the vision psych department. A Wavetek signal generator fed a rack-mount power op-amp, which fed a few turns wrapped around a TV flyback transformer with floating secondary. The electrodes were copper screen embedded between thin plexiglas with silicone caulk. Tune the generator to the flyback's resonance, then either switch on the Wavetek's internal 1KHz modulator, or pipe some audio into the VCG connector. It worked! With the electrodes clamped to our heads, we could hear very clear sound. But I noticed while clamping the electrode plates to my arm, I could hear the sound coming from the electrodes. By simply touching my fingertips gently to one of the plates, I could hear the sound coming from my fingertips. We turned out the lights and saw a purple glow surrounding our fingertips in contact with the plastic. So the Neurophone is actually a "Kirlian Photography" setup! It's also a "plasma tweeter," since it creates a glow discharge, then creates sound by modulating the amount of wattage feeding that plasma. No doubt the device was injecting plenty of sound directly into the tissues in contact with the electrodes, so the sound would travel around inside. However, I could NOT hear any sound when I clamped the device to my arm and then plugged my ears. If our amp had far more power, perhaps I could have heard the flesh-conducted sound injected into my arm and travelling up my neck to my ears.. When wearing the electrode plates on our ears, I suppose that the sound mostly came from the contact point between our ear tissues and the plastic. It behaved somewhat unexpectedly, since most of the sound was apparently being injected into the flesh of our outer ears, then travelling internally to our eardrums or perhaps directly to the cochlea, rather than travelling through the air path. No matter how the plates were positioned, the sound seemed to be coming from the same direction. By touching the plate to any part of our ears, we heard the same clear loud audio signal. Flesh conduction is weird. Underwater noises, with your body being the "water." But best of all, we got to watch each other with 30,000V electrodes strapped to our heads! ((((((((((((((((((((((( ( ( (o) ) ) ))))))))))))))))))))))) William J. Beaty http://staff.washington.edu/wbeaty/ Research Engineer UW Chem Dept, Bagley Hall RM74 beaty@chemwashingtonedu Box 351700, Seattle, WA 98195-1700 ph:206-543-6195 fax:206-685-8665
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