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Article #38Re: 4 layer PCB (from 2 layer) + array of designs on one board
From: Jamie
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 14:26
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 14:26
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Vitaliy wrote: > Hello, > > My appplication is light detection -> using photodiodes and > transimpedeance amplifier (OPA657 from Texas Instruments). At this > point I have 2-layer working design. I need to increase the bandwidth > of the detector (from 10MHz to 40MHz) and try to reduce noise (also > reducing noise is always welcome, of course). I'm thinking about using > two inner layers for +5V and -5V power layers (I'm using free space on > top and bottom layers for ground layer). +-5V is currently connected to > the board from external power supply by soldering two wires (one for > +5V and one for -5V). I am using +-5V to bias photodiodes and to power > the opamp. The software I'm using is OrCAD. Even if going to 4 layer > from two wouldn't give me a significant improvement in terms of > reducing the noise level, I would like to know the answers for the > following questions. > > 1) Will traferring +-5V to separate layers (rather than just have the > power traces with filters) work? Since the inner layer is most likely > to be .5oz copper as opposed to 1oz copper of outer layers. There is no > way to specify that in gerber file, right? Will creating a power layer > give me more stable voltage (and high capacitance)? That's why people > are using multilayers as opposed to two layers, right? I guess I will > still need some decoupling capacitors at the vias. > > > 2) The price differential between 2 and 4 layer boards is quite steep, > and I can easily fit a few prototype boards on one board and then cut > them (or have it cut by manufacturer). What is the easiest way to place > array of differemt designs on one board? I only have access to OrCAD, > but it can generate gerber files, so maybe some other software can be > used. Are the manufacturers ok with this? I would prefer them to cut > the boards, if possible, since I probably wouldn't be able to do it as > well without special equipment. (Something tells me they woudn't be > willing to make x by x board, and then cut it in y pieces, but just > checking). I do realize I might be able to place three designs side by > side and not require any cutting, but that might not always work for > me. > > Merry Christmas, > Vitaliy > single sided Ceramic daughter board for the OP-AMP and INPUT? Also a hole in the board so that the chip is suspended via the rails and output legs only also may help. I did something like that years ago to remove the cap around the structure. -- "I'm never wrong, once i thought i was, but was mistaken" Real Programmers Do things like this. http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5
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