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Article #111Re: Best way to power array of LEDs?
From: Winfield Hill
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 12:04
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 12:04
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Watson 'Atto Parsec' Name wrote...
>
> Early this year or last year we had this newsgroup discussion about making
> a simple current regulator for LEDs. You will have to put your LEDs in
> series in place of the single LED and adjust the resistor values for the
> higher voltage. For a start you will probably want to put a pot in place
> of the 2.2k resistor. Here's the simple version of the schematic. To view
> this you must use Courier font.
>
> Rich Grise wrote:
>
>> If I were building it, I'd lose the 2N3904, both of the 1N914's,
>> the 3.3K, and the 22K, and just connect the wiper of the pot to
>> the base of the 2N4401. ...
>
> Thanks for the idea... Do you mean something like the following???
>
>> Watson A.Name wrote:
>
>>> Current Limiter, Low Dropout, for LEDs
>>> by Watson A.Name Jan 16, 02 rev 020116A
>>>
>>> +---------------+--------------+
>>> | | |
>>> \ | |
>>> 2.2 / --- White |
>>> k \ \ / LED |
>>> / --- |
>>> | | |
>>> +---+ | |
>>> | | | |
>>> | | | / |
>>> | \ |/ ----- four
>>> --- / 470 +----| 2N4401 === Ni-
>>> \ / \ | |\ ----- MH
>>> D1 --- / | |E \ === AA
>>> 1N | | | | ----- cells
>>> 914 | +-------+ | === 4.0
>>> D2 | | +-o T.P. ----- to
>>> | | | === 5.5V
>>> --- \ \ -----
>>> \ / / 2.2k / 10 |
>>> --- \ \ ohms |
>>> | / / |
>>> | | | |
>>> +---+---------------+--------------+
>
> Jan 20, 2002 Measurements taken with B&K 2707 DMM.
> At 5.5V, T.P. V = .325V. At 4.0V, T.P. V = .271V.
>
> This is about 20 percent variation in LED current over the full range.
> This is not as good as the original adapted circuit that had about 13
> percent over the full range. ...
Generally a transistor beats a few diodes, and takes about the same
amount of space. In the circuit below a Vbe-multiplier reference
has replaced the diodes. The adjustable nature of this type of
reference allows us to run the current-sense resistor at 0.2V, and
a properly-chosen collector resistor R4 allows us to cancel out
the effects of changing supply voltage. To a first approximation,
R4 = r_e for Q1 at its 1mA operating current, or about 27 ohms.
. ,----
. |
. R3
. 2.2k white white
. | LED LED
. ,----+ x | |
. | | | |
. | R4 C C
. R2 +--- B ----- B
. 1.0k | E E
. | C | Q2 | Q2'
. +--B | +---
. | E Q1 | |
. R1 | R5 R5'
. 2.2k | 6.8 6.8
. | | | |
. '----+------+-------+----
A quick calculation shows the voltage at point x should be about
0.95 volts, setting the value for R2/R1 at 0.95/Vbe - 1 = 0.46
Thanks,
- Win
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