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Article #228Re: Best way to power array of LEDs?
From: Byron A Jeff
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 01:39
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 01:39
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In article <h6hvpu8hnhuag56b3rr5sqlompgmj984dm@4ax.com>, JoeBloe <theguyattheendofthebar__nicepingeh?> wrote: -On 4 Oct 2002 12:48:17 -0400, byron@cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff) Gave -us: - ->In article <Qrhn9.27982$kd3.80464@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, ->Grog <shem_an_na@SPAM_ME_NOThotmail.com> wrote: ->- ->-"John Woodgate" <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote in message ->-news:B7hloTAPDZn9EwGz@jmwa.demon.co.uk... ->-> I read in sci.electronics.design that Uwe Zimmermann <uwezi@kth.se> ->-> wrote (in <3D9D5939.CD795C11@kth.se>) about 'Best way to power array of ->-> LEDs?', on Fri, 4 Oct 2002: ->-> >You then connect the drain of the transistor to the positive supply and ->-> >the gate/source to the anode of the first LED in each chain. The cathode ->-> >of the last LED is connected to the negative supply. ->-> ->-> This is an *extremely* unreliable circuit, because it has no protection ->-> against the large transients, of both polarities, that occur on vehicle ->-> electrical supplies. -> ->That's an apples and gorillas discussion. Transient and spike surppression ->is a completely different issue from powering the LEDs. I didn't even attempt ->to address it. -> -> ->-> ->-> Don't bother with adding transistors just to get rid of a few resistors ->-> (or maybe add a few more, and MOVs and capacitors and fuses ...). KISS! -> ->But it isn't simple if the array isn't bright enough to do the job. It's ->quite likely that the LEDs will need to be pulsed with higher current in ->order to give brighter perceptual intensity. Once you start down that road ->you're going to have to have transistors to modulate/switch power to the ->LEDs. -> ->And frankly an extra 2N2222 and base resistor per string isn't exactly rocket ->science. -> - - Yeah... they're all of what 10 cents a piece? Hehehe... - - DC/DC converter from surplus store for five bucks, drop to five -volts, clean instead of 12, dirty. It really doesn't matter too very much since it'll be the same amount of current regardless of the voltage... - Two copper rails. Why? - A series resistor in each leg of each LED that gets BUSSED in parallel onto - the copper rails. Again why when you can string multiple LEDs per string this saving both components (resistors) and power loss (due to the lower voltage drop. - - Ten bucks total... maybe. On a bad day. I never heard price being an issue. Any you still haven't dealt with the most important issue, brightness! Here are the simple facts: * The LEDs at continuous max current probably won't be bright enough. * More current can be delivered only at a lower than 100 percent duty cycle. * This requires that the power to the LEDs to be switched. * Ergo you need a transistor. The current limiting is simply a bonus. LEDs are not about voltage. They don't care about voltage. I've run them at 2.5V. I've run them at 120V AC. LEDs are current devices and have a brighter response to more current. So any LED supply is about current management. BAJ
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