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Article #1011Re: An unusual Oscilloscope phenomenon
From: John Larkin
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:39
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:39
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On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:48:35 -0400, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: >John Larkin wrote: >> On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:42:07 -0700, <castlebravo242@att.net> wrote: >> >>> "David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:h8B0m.53620$FI5.3564@newsfe12.iad... >>>> Check out a rather unusual phenomenon you can see on your oscilloscope in >>>> my latest blog (#14): >>>> http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/ >>>> See if you can get it to happen on your scope! >>>> I'll offer a free subscription to my blog for the best screen shot posted >>>> :-> >>>> >>>> Oh, and the probe doesn't have to be shorted either. >>>> >>>> Have fun. >>>> Dave. >>>> -- >>>> ================================================ >>>> Check out my Electronics Engineering Video Blog & Podcast: >>>> http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/ >>>> >>>> >>> When I worked a Century Data we had a problem with our new reel to reel >>> vaccuum column tape drive when ever someone would walk by the drive when it >>> was reading it would get data errors. The problem was that the shield on the >>> cable from the heads to the preamp was grounded on both ends. >>> >>> Bob >>> >> >> That's usually the best way to ground shields. >> >> John >> >> >Depends. With floating transducers and shielded twisted pair, it's best >to ground the shield only at the transducer end. That way any >capacitive imbalance doesn't produce any currents, because the shield is >at the transducer's idea of ground. > At the receive (instrument) end, the ungrounded end of the coax shield becomes the hot side of a resonant "vertical" antenna. Any voltage there becomes 100% common-mode signal on the inner twisted pair. What's wrong with a little current in the shield? The signal pair isn't affected. But volts, or tens of volts, of common-mode RF can be nasty. John
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