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Article #1019Re: An unusual Oscilloscope phenomenon
From: Fred Bartoli
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:22
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:22
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Joerg a �crit : > Fred Bartoli wrote: >> John Larkin a �crit : >>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:31:09 +0800, TonyS <scarborofun@gmail.nspm.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> John Larkin wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:42:07 -0700, <castlebravo242@att.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:h8B0m.53620$FI5.3564@newsfe12.iad... >>>>>>> Check out a rather unusual phenomenon you can see on your >>>>>>> oscilloscope in my latest blog (#14): >>>>>>> http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/ >>>>>>> See if you can get it to happen on your scope! >>>>>>> I'll offer a free subscription to my blog for the best screen >>>>>>> shot posted :-> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh, and the probe doesn't have to be shorted either. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have fun. >>>>>>> Dave. >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> ================================================ >>>>>>> Check out my Electronics Engineering Video Blog & Podcast: >>>>>>> http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> When I worked a Century Data we had a problem with our new reel to >>>>>> reel vaccuum column tape drive when ever someone would walk by the >>>>>> drive when it was reading it would get data errors. The problem >>>>>> was that the shield on the cable from the heads to the preamp was >>>>>> grounded on both ends. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob >>>>> That's usually the best way to ground shields. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> >>>> IIRC head signals mostly went via twisted pair. If they had a shield >>>> as well we would certainly not ground them on both sides. >>>> >>> >>> You *want* large amounts of high-frequency common-mode noise? >>> >> >> Probably. Lots of people don't understand this and I've seen this kind >> of mistake (opened shield) recommended in lots of highly regarded EMC >> books. >> >> But that's really nice for us. (Joerg?) >> > > Yeah! But shhht, don't spill the beans here, at least not until I am > retired :-)) > I think I'll retired after you, but this kind of misconception is sufficiently widely spread that we don't have to worry :-) -- Thanks, Fred.
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X-Google-Thread: a5a6238865,2fb4482ba391e6 X-Google-Attributes: gida5a6238865,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!cleanfeed2-a.proxad.net!nnrp19-1.free.fr!not-for-mail Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:22:29 +0200 From: Fred Bartoli <" "> Reply-To: myname_with_a_dot_inbetween@free.fr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090318) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,aus.electronics Subject: Re: An unusual Oscilloscope phenomenon References: <h8B0m.53620$FI5.3564@newsfe12.iad> <C5D0m.1651$vO4.300@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com> <n41645hvv4ia1uqa1cnbriilvg4vg1td2a@4ax.com> <4a4335db$0$2599$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au> <lov645d8bupag8bnecplboifq4gsfm61i7@4ax.com> <4a43bc51$0$9725$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <7ai2rbF1vcc5tU1@mid.individual.net> In-Reply-To: <7ai2rbF1vcc5tU1@mid.individual.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 64 Message-ID: <4a43dc85$0$3622$426a74cc@news.free.fr> Organization: Guest of ProXad - France NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Jun 2009 22:22:29 MEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.187.4.27 X-Trace: 1245961349 news-1.free.fr 3622 88.187.4.27:42966 X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net