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Article #1021Re: An unusual Oscilloscope phenomenon
From: Joerg
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:32
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:32
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Fred Bartoli wrote: > Joerg a �crit : >> Fred Bartoli wrote: >>> John Larkin a �crit : >>>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:31:09 +0800, TonyS <scarborofun@gmail.nspm.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> John Larkin wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:42:07 -0700, <castlebravo242@att.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> "David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:h8B0m.53620$FI5.3564@newsfe12.iad... >>>>>>>> Check out a rather unusual phenomenon you can see on your >>>>>>>> oscilloscope in my latest blog (#14): >>>>>>>> http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/ >>>>>>>> See if you can get it to happen on your scope! >>>>>>>> I'll offer a free subscription to my blog for the best screen >>>>>>>> shot posted :-> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Oh, and the probe doesn't have to be shorted either. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Have fun. >>>>>>>> Dave. >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> ================================================ >>>>>>>> Check out my Electronics Engineering Video Blog & Podcast: >>>>>>>> http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> When I worked a Century Data we had a problem with our new reel >>>>>>> to reel vaccuum column tape drive when ever someone would walk by >>>>>>> the drive when it was reading it would get data errors. The >>>>>>> problem was that the shield on the cable from the heads to the >>>>>>> preamp was grounded on both ends. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bob >>>>>> That's usually the best way to ground shields. >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> IIRC head signals mostly went via twisted pair. If they had a >>>>> shield as well we would certainly not ground them on both sides. >>>>> >>>> >>>> You *want* large amounts of high-frequency common-mode noise? >>>> >>> >>> Probably. Lots of people don't understand this and I've seen this >>> kind of mistake (opened shield) recommended in lots of highly >>> regarded EMC books. >>> >>> But that's really nice for us. (Joerg?) >>> >> >> Yeah! But shhht, don't spill the beans here, at least not until I am >> retired :-)) >> > > I think I'll retired after you, but this kind of misconception is > sufficiently widely spread that we don't have to worry :-) > Oh, I am not worried at all :-) But I am concerned about what happens when guys like you and I are in their 90's, the hands are shaky, the mind ain't what it used to be and the senior living place doesn't allow a Tektronix mainframe in the rooms. The next generation doesn't have anough analog engineers. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
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