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Article #1531Re: Tingles from power supply
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:44
Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:44
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Eeyore wrote: > > Sylvia Else wrote: > >> J.A. Legris wrote: >>> On Mar 8, 10:35 am, Sylvia Else <syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote: >>>> Sylvia Else wrote: >>>>> I've recently bought a D-Link DIR-300 wireless router. While >>>>> disconnecting its power supply from it, I got a tingling sensation when >>>>> I touched the plug (to be clear, I'm talking about the 5V DC plug, not >>>>> the mains plug). >>>>> An AVO meter shows about 90V AC to earth from either side of the 5V >>>>> plug. Short circuit current to earth is about 0.1mA. >>>>> Still, I thought these things were meant to be completely isolated. Has >>>>> there been a change of approach? >>>>> Sylvia. >>>> Apparently it's normal, and is related to RFI suppression. >>>> >>>> Sylvia. >>> Just think, the only thing between you and the great beyond is a thin >>> layer of ceramic material, possibly contaminated with who-knows-what, >>> bearing a certification logo of dubious authenticity. It's time to >>> invest in some rubber-soled slippers. >> It's certainly not a happy thought. I will be treating the low voltage >> side of such power supplies with more respect from now on. >> >> BTW, I tried the same tests with the power supply for my cable modem. It >> showed higher voltages, but lower current. >> >> But immediately after I'd unplugged it from the mains, I happened to >> touch the mains plug pins with the palm of my hand, and got a >> significant shock off it. Reverse leakage through the rectifiers? But >> why should there even be enough to feel? > > That's another cap ! You're not meant to touch the power pins immediately. It's > all in IEC60065. > > Graham > Try this one. Run an electric drill, then unplug it. Get a "friend" to hold the plug in his hand, prongs inward. Squeeze the trigger. -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party http://www.onetribe.me.uk/wordpress/?cat=5 - Our podcasts on weird stuff
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