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Article #1563Re: HP chip model planes
From: krw
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:39
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:39
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:25:11 GMT, James Arthur <bogusabdsqy@verizon.net> wrote: >David L. Jones wrote: >> On Jan 25, 7:17 pm, Raymond Wiker <r...@RawMBP.local> wrote: >>> "David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> writes: >>> >>> >>> >>>> The latest 12C actually uses an Atmel ARM processor (as in the new >>>> 20B) running the original 12C ROM using the Nonpareil emulator: >>>> http://nonpareil.brouhaha.com/ >>>> Rumor has it further Voyager models (11C, 15C etc) will be re-released >>>> with this method. >>> >>> How does the ARM.based version compare with the old version, >>> in terms of speed and battery life? I would not be surpised to hear of >>> an 11C that was still on its original set of batteries :-) >> >> I haven't head about the new 12C as apparently it's quite hard to find >> and identify them on the shelves, and only sold in Europe or somewhere >> so far? >> >> If the new 20B is anything to go by (and it should be because it's the >> same processor) then battery life it will be a shocker. >> Rated 9 months from two CR2032 batteries. >> IMO HP goofed big in the design of the 20B. It works at 30MHz for all >> calculations (then goes to sleep), but that means 15mA or so from the >> two CR2032 batteries. This means big losses in the battery internal >> resistance when doing calcs. > > >Why on earth does a calculator need to run at 30MHz? The >original HP15c ran at 220KHz[*] in 1983. So there is no lag in 59!? Do you happen to know that the HP35's clock was? > Has Bill Gates >really made us 136x dumber / less efficient in the past >26 years? At least. Windoze is a lot prettier though. OTOH, I'd like an HP11C (or name your fav HP calculator) in each cell in Excel. >Well, maybe he has at that. <snip>
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