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Re: HP chip model planes

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From: krw
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:39
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:25:11 GMT, James Arthur
<bogusabdsqy@verizon.net> wrote:

>David L. Jones wrote:
>> On Jan 25, 7:17 pm, Raymond Wiker <r...@RawMBP.local> wrote:
>>> "David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> The latest 12C actually uses an Atmel ARM processor (as in the new
>>>> 20B) running the original 12C ROM using the Nonpareil emulator:
>>>> http://nonpareil.brouhaha.com/
>>>> Rumor has it further Voyager models (11C, 15C etc) will be re-released
>>>> with this method.
>>>
>>>         How does the ARM.based version compare with the old version,
>>> in terms of speed and battery life? I would not be surpised to hear of
>>> an 11C that was still on its original set of batteries :-)
>> 
>> I haven't head about the new 12C as apparently it's quite hard to find
>> and identify them on the shelves, and only sold in Europe or somewhere
>> so far?
>> 
>> If the new 20B is anything to go by (and it should be because it's the
>> same processor) then battery life it will be a shocker.
>> Rated 9 months from two CR2032 batteries.
>> IMO HP goofed big in the design of the 20B. It works at 30MHz for all
>> calculations (then goes to sleep), but that means 15mA or so from the
>> two CR2032 batteries. This means big losses in the battery internal
>> resistance when doing calcs.
>
>
>Why on earth does a calculator need to run at 30MHz?  The
>original HP15c ran at 220KHz[*] in 1983.

So there is no lag in 59!?  Do you happen to know that the HP35's
clock was?

> Has Bill Gates
>really made us 136x dumber / less efficient in the past
>26 years?

At least.  Windoze is  a lot prettier though.

OTOH, I'd like an HP11C (or name your fav HP calculator) in each cell
in Excel.

>Well, maybe he has at that.

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