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Article #1569Re: HP chip model planes
From: David L. Jones
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:22
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:22
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On Jan 26, 7:44 am, "John H Meyers" <jhmey...@nomail.invalid> wrote: > On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:01:39 -0600, David L. Jones wrote: > > The latest 12C actually uses an Atmel ARM processor (as in the new > > 20B) running the original 12C ROM using the Nonpareil emulator: > >http://nonpareil.brouhaha.com/ > > > Rumor has it further Voyager models (11C, 15C etc) > > will be re-released with this method. > > Since it's been observed that some previous product "updates" > are actually complete internal re-designs, complete with > bad bugs and less accuracy, an emulation of the original > would seem very attractive, to those who know about > the quality of those originals; perhaps, should they > dare to tinker with them, the few remaining bugs > of the originals might even be fixed. The ASIC used in the previous 12C was becoming obsolete, so HP either had to either re-design from scratch (software wise), or go with Eric's ROM emulator. They wisely went with the later given that almost the entire finance industry relies on the 12C, and any numerical bugs would have unacceptable to say the least. > However, the originals were designed with limited memory, > so can an exact clone provide any more program and data storage, > or even additional functions, > as did some of the subsequent "updates"? > > I suppose I'd better rush out and sell my old originals, > before the market is flooded with clones, > satisfying the demand that currently exceeds the supply :) Yup, if a new 11C or 15C ROM emulated machine comes out, the Ebay market will drop like a rock. > Never-cloned originals whose value keeps increasing:http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS229787+15-Jan-2008+PR...http://www.glassinesurfer.com/stamp_collecting/gsinvertedjenny.shtmlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_Jenny > > Once rare, until cloned:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dag_Hammarskjöld_inverthttp://stamps.about.com/od/historyofphilately/p/DagHammar.htm > > How about those HP49Gs with inverted keys? > Are they fetching huge prices, like stamps? > Seehttp://holyjoe.net/hp/HP49.htm#upsidedown If Casio ever brong back the CFX-400, interest in my uWatch will no doubt dry up! http://www.calcwatch.com/ Dave.
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