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Article #1599Re: Understanding a split-mode power supply.
From: Sylvia Else
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 22:21
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 22:21
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Jamie wrote: > Sylvia Else wrote: > >> After my airconditioner failed the other day, and being reluctant to >> pay a technician to come and fix it, I've been taking a look at its >> electronics board. >> >> It's clear that its power supply circuit has failed. From the board >> itself I've inferred this partial circuit: >> >> http://members.optusnet.com.au/sylviae/smps.jpg >> >> I am pretty sure there are no other components connected to the >> transistor labelled Q1, and it is this transistor that has failed. The >> failure mode is a short (a few ohms, polarity insensitive) from base >> to emitter. The collector is open circuit. The transistor is thus >> unable to sink enough current to prevent the switching transistor from >> turning on, and as a result the 8.2 Ohm fusible resistor has also failed. >> >> It seems moderately likely that by replacing these two components I >> can get the board working again. >> >> The circuit nevertheless puzzles me. The function of Q1 appears to be >> to bias the switching transistor. But this seems to rely somewhat on >> the characteristics of the two transistors, which I would have thought >> was asking for trouble. In particular, it looks to me as if Q1 could >> simply prevent the switching transistor from ever conducting, and >> nothing would happen. >> >> Is this an accepted technique? Or have I misunderstood the purpose of Q1? >> >> BTW, this is from the external unit of a nine year old Daikin split >> system. >> >> Sylvia. > How about Q1 being a thyristor as a crow bar on the bias of that second > transistor? > > In which case, your symbol is incorrect. And would show the reason > why you're getting low ohm reading is my guess on what you call the > base-emitter and Collector being opened which is actually the M1 > terminal etc.. > > That's just a guess of course. The small transistor is a C1815 - an NPN, with an annoyingly difficult to match pin-out. Sylvia.
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