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Article #1601Re: Understanding a split-mode power supply.
From: legg
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 22:30
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 22:30
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On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:21:54 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote: >Jamie wrote: >> Sylvia Else wrote: >> >>> After my airconditioner failed the other day, and being reluctant to >>> pay a technician to come and fix it, I've been taking a look at its >>> electronics board. >>> >>> It's clear that its power supply circuit has failed. From the board >>> itself I've inferred this partial circuit: >>> >>> http://members.optusnet.com.au/sylviae/smps.jpg >>> >>> I am pretty sure there are no other components connected to the >>> transistor labelled Q1, and it is this transistor that has failed. The >>> failure mode is a short (a few ohms, polarity insensitive) from base >>> to emitter. The collector is open circuit. The transistor is thus >>> unable to sink enough current to prevent the switching transistor from >>> turning on, and as a result the 8.2 Ohm fusible resistor has also failed. >>> >>> It seems moderately likely that by replacing these two components I >>> can get the board working again. >>> >>> The circuit nevertheless puzzles me. The function of Q1 appears to be >>> to bias the switching transistor. But this seems to rely somewhat on >>> the characteristics of the two transistors, which I would have thought >>> was asking for trouble. In particular, it looks to me as if Q1 could >>> simply prevent the switching transistor from ever conducting, and >>> nothing would happen. >>> >>> Is this an accepted technique? Or have I misunderstood the purpose of Q1? >>> >>> BTW, this is from the external unit of a nine year old Daikin split >>> system. >>> >>> Sylvia. >> How about Q1 being a thyristor as a crow bar on the bias of that second >> transistor? >> >> In which case, your symbol is incorrect. And would show the reason >> why you're getting low ohm reading is my guess on what you call the >> base-emitter and Collector being opened which is actually the M1 >> terminal etc.. >> >> That's just a guess of course. > >The small transistor is a C1815 - an NPN, with an annoyingly difficult >to match pin-out. > >Sylvia. Looking at the package's flat surface, with leads pointing down, the pin-out of 2SC1815 is ECB. RL
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