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Article #1721Re: Who Killed the Electric Car?
From: Benj
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 18:15
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 18:15
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On May 16, 8:09 pm, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net> wrote: > > --Damon, still hoping for a Mr. Fusion > > There is a Ford Fusion:http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/fusion/?v=html A ford Fusion for what? MPG 20/29! Cripes my Toyota pickup truck gets better than that! Obviously nobody ESPECIALLY those at GM have ANY intention of dealing with running out of oil! They also seem to prefer taking a backseat in the auto industry allowing other companies to actually be number one. Not only is there the ELECTRIC car fiasco, but there is much more as well! Consider the electric car. Yes, there are battery problems: Lead acid are heavy. Ni-MH tend to discharge just sitting. and Li-Ion are very expensive with a 5 year life. BUT, the key is that these cars run on COAL and not OIL! That means that even though they leave something to be desired in performance, you still get to keep driving to work every day even when gasoline hits $100 a gallon. Which brings up the point. Cars have various functions. Yes a nice high performance gas car does a lot of things nicely. It has power, it has range, it has comfort. But a great deal of driving is just going to work daily through slow city traffic. So an electric is ideal for that. You recharge at night and go to work each day. No wonder people loved them. The idea of using an electric to perform ALL your driving is dumb. But splitting out your commuting driving for electric makes great sense. And in the meantime, hey I'm driving a "classic" Geo metro! 45/55 mpg (actually measured by me!) Now go look at current offerings by auto makers! NOTHING comes close. It seems that building a Geo is sort of like making a mummy, everyone has forgotten how to do it! Cripes, I LOVE that little car but support from GM is nil, they have offered NOTHING like it for years, and pretend that this "technology" doesn't even exist! It's downright criminal! And that's not even the limits! One could use aluminum and carbon fiber construction to go for some "real" mileage! But instead all we have is a huge scam and wringing of hands as if nothing can be done. I've got it, lets all drive to work in gigantic high-profit SUVs that GM will happily supply [and then demand a higher salary to pay for the increased fuel costs] You want a formula for disaster? There is one for you! And GM will support you in it.
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