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Article #1737Re: Who Killed the Electric Car?
From: John Fields
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 16:27
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 16:27
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On Fri, 23 May 2008 17:04:37 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote: > > >John Fields wrote: > >> Eeyore wrote: >> >John Fields wrote: >> >> Eeyore wrote: >> >> >John Fields wrote: >> >> >> Eeyore wrote: >> >> >> >Phil Hobbs wrote: >> >> >> >> Eeyore wrote: >> >> >> >> > Martin Brown wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Joerg wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> terryc wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>> Joerg wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> Pure electric-only EVs aren't the answer. It'll be HEVs that most >> >> >> >> >>>>>> likely win >> >> >> >> >>>>>> the day. >> >> >> >> >>>>> Hydrogen? Where's that going to be coming from? >> >> >> >> >>>> Exactly. My 2c is on a proper hybrid where the ICE(petrol or diesel) >> >> >> >> >>>> simply runs a generator that tops up the battery bank. >> >> >> >> >>>> I would really like to see if that works out more efficent that all the >> >> >> >> >>>> inefficencies of current direct drive ICEs. >> >> >> >> >>> That's how the Toyota Prius works. Gets between 40mpg and 60mpg >> >> >> >> >>> according to what owners told me. >> >> >> >> >> Which isn't all that impressive by European or Japanese standards of >> >> >> >> >> fuel efficiency. A BMW 3 series deisel saloon will manage that. eg >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://saveyourcash.co.uk/fuel/cardatadetail.aspx?mfr=BMW&model=3-Series-E90/E91/E92/E93&id=632 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Urban 39.8 Motorway 64.2 mpg to save you following the link. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Multiply by 0.8 to get US mpg. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> US fluid ounces are a bit bigger than Imperial, so the ratio isn't >> >> >> >> 1.25:1 as you might expect, but almost exactly 1.20:1. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >So a US fl oz doesn't weigh an ounce ? >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_ounce >> >> > >> >> >Lucky then that almost no-one these days uses them isn't it ? >> >> >> >> --- >> >> You never miss an opportunity to be a nasty little bitch, do you? >> > >> >Are you suggesting that fl oz make any kind of sense ? >> >> --- >> Most of the world seems to think so: >> >> news:3fld34969bstq3nsjriarf75342rdrj9sf@4ax.com > >They only put fl oz on those for the export market. You won't see it in the non-US market. You see ml ONLY in >most of the world. --- Then those are US fluid ounces, which is what we're used to, so there's certainly no confusion there. --- >> Especially when there THREE different definitions. >> >> --- >> So what? > >Because it doesn't have a standardised value. > >A fl oz could be > >28.41 ml >29.57 ml or >30 ml > >Bloody stupid if you ask me. --- But if what we get are US fluid ounces, then there's no conflict and the only thing that remains bloody stupid is you. JF
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