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Re: Who Killed the Electric Car?

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From: John Fields
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 16:27
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On Fri, 23 May 2008 17:04:37 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>John Fields wrote:
>
>> Eeyore wrote:
>> >John Fields wrote:
>> >> Eeyore wrote:
>> >> >John Fields wrote:
>> >> >> Eeyore wrote:
>> >> >> >Phil Hobbs wrote:
>> >> >> >> Eeyore wrote:
>> >> >> >> > Martin Brown wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> Joerg wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>> terryc wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>>> Joerg wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> Pure electric-only EVs aren't the answer. It'll be HEVs that most
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> likely win
>> >> >> >> >>>>>> the day.
>> >> >> >> >>>>> Hydrogen? Where's that going to be coming from?
>> >> >> >> >>>> Exactly. My 2c is on a proper hybrid where the ICE(petrol or diesel)
>> >> >> >> >>>> simply runs a generator that tops up the battery bank.
>> >> >> >> >>>> I would really like to see if that works out more efficent that all the
>> >> >> >> >>>> inefficencies of current direct drive ICEs.
>> >> >> >> >>> That's how the Toyota Prius works. Gets between 40mpg and 60mpg
>> >> >> >> >>> according to what owners told me.
>> >> >> >> >> Which isn't all that impressive by European or Japanese standards of
>> >> >> >> >> fuel efficiency. A BMW 3 series deisel saloon will manage that. eg
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> http://saveyourcash.co.uk/fuel/cardatadetail.aspx?mfr=BMW&model=3-Series-E90/E91/E92/E93&id=632
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Urban 39.8 Motorway 64.2 mpg to save you following the link.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Multiply by 0.8 to get US mpg.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> US fluid ounces are a bit bigger than Imperial, so the ratio isn't
>> >> >> >> 1.25:1 as you might expect, but almost exactly 1.20:1.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >So a US fl oz doesn't weigh an ounce ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ---
>> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_ounce
>> >> >
>> >> >Lucky then that almost no-one these days uses them isn't it ?
>> >>
>> >> ---
>> >> You never miss an opportunity to be a nasty little bitch, do you?
>> >
>> >Are you suggesting that fl oz make any kind of sense ?
>>
>> ---
>> Most of the world seems to think so:
>>
>> news:3fld34969bstq3nsjriarf75342rdrj9sf@4ax.com
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>They only put fl oz on those for the export market. You won't see it in the non-US market. You see ml ONLY in
>most of the world.

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Then those are US fluid ounces, which is what we're used to, so
there's certainly no confusion there.
---


>> Especially when there THREE different definitions.
>>
>> ---
>> So what?
>
>Because it doesn't have a standardised value.
>
>A fl oz could be
>
>28.41 ml
>29.57 ml or
>30 ml
>
>Bloody stupid if you ask me.

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But if what we get are US fluid ounces, then there's no conflict and
the only thing that remains bloody stupid is you.

JF
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From: John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com>
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Subject: Re: Who Killed the Electric Car?
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 11:27:06 -0500
Organization: Austin Instruments. Inc.
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