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Article #1759Re: Who Killed the Electric Car?
From: T
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 05:58
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 05:58
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In article <5iIXj.542$mh5.416@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com>, notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net says... > Eeyore wrote: > > > > Jeff Liebermann wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 16 May 2008 10:47:27 -0700, Joerg > >> <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote: > >> > >>> There is a major stumbling block in areas like ours: Monopoly, plus > >>> baseline usage rules the monopoly imposes. The millisecond you exceed > >>> baseline by IIRC as little as 30% electricity becomes painfully > >>> expensive. Anyone who dared to use their A/C in summer knows that. > >>> Unless this changes or one can line up a sweet and most of all longterm > >>> night-time deal there won't be a realistic future for electric cars. > >> One former EV-1 owner has a solution to the electric power cost > >> problem: > >> <http://www.solarwarrior.com> > >> <http://www.solarwarrior.com/why.html> > > > > A 30kW peak output PV solar array would cost somewhere in the region of > > $120,000 in panels alone by my estimation yet would only provide around > > 120kWh of electricity daily (worth around $12) on average. Factor in > > financing costs and it simply will NEVER 'pay back' > > > > Scale that down to a 12kWh EV battery pack daily recharge and it would still > > cost you $12,000 PLUS and the associated installation, inverter etc, say > > $20k overall. Yet it would only cost about $1.20 for that daily recharge > > from the mains. > > > > Not if you live in an area where electricity cost versus monthly usage > has the I/V characteristic of a silicon diode. Out here when you reach > 130% of baseline that would be the 600mV point. Go beyond that and > you'll hear a huge slurping sound. That sound would be coming from your > bank account. And that happens in a lot of other places, too. > > That's ok, I just got a notice that National Grid is hiking electric rates in RI again. It's bad enough that with the combined distribution and generation charges we pay 14.5 cents per kWh. I don't know how much more I can bear of this. Deregulation, yeah it's only good for the company not for the people.
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