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Article #1770Re: Who Killed the Electric Car?
From: Joerg
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 21:55
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 21:55
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Jeff Liebermann wrote: > On Sat, 17 May 2008 11:43:25 -0700, Joerg > <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote: > >> True. But Li-Ion charge cycles are pretty well researched out by now. I >> doubt one can ever get to 200k miles with one set. But one can on the >> first engine, and then some. > > Not really. The A123 Systems batteries are HD Nanophosphate > technology which is allegedly better than conventional Li-Ion and LiPO > batteries. Although commonly used in overpriced battery operated > power tools, there's really not enough field experience to predict > reliability and lifetime. > <http://www.a123systems.com/#/technology/power/pchart1/> > > "Thousands and thousands" of charge cycles lifetime: > <http://www.a123systems.com/#/technology/life/> > Sounds a bit vague to me. > > Fast Charging: > <http://www.a123systems.com/#/technology/power/pchart5/> > >> I am not a fan of those. My sister has instant heaters and often you >> either get pelted with an arctic shower or boiling water. Ok, that's an >> exaggeration but it ain't comfy. > > That's high luxury compared to taking a shower with a rooftop solar > water heater. I got introduced to those in the 1970's in Israel. > Israel has lots of sun, lots of rooftops, and isn't insterested in > wasting power heating what water it pulls out of the Jordan River. > Haifa was literally covered with apartment buildings. The ground > floor was reserved for businesses. The rest were apartments which > were sold, not rented. Every apartment had its solar water heater on > the roof (along with multiple TV antennas at the time) which made > things rather crowded. > > Anyway, when you first turn on the water, you get the somewhat warm > water that was sitting in the pipes. About 15 seconds later, you get > scalded by maximumly hot, near boiling, water directly from the solar > water heater. That slowly tapers off in temperature as the rooftop > heater slowly empties. I learned to take a shower with one hand on > the valves. > > I've done the same with flash water heaters. They do a somewhat > better job of temperature regulation, but without a ballast tank, > constant adjustment is required. Still, it's more energy efficient > than a tank type water heater. Sacrifices must be made. > Most of the stuff sold for residential use is so incredibly crude. I mean, what would it take to design an automatic mixer between hot and cold? It ain't rocket science and has been done before. [...] -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
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