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On May 19, 6:38 am, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net>
wrote:
> Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> > On Sun, 18 May 2008 17:12:42 -0700, Joerg
> > <notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
>
> >>> PG&E rates vary with usage and season.  The cost to charge the fleet
> >>> of electric vehicles would have placed them in nearly the highest
> >>> rates.  See:
> >>> <http://www.pge.com/tariffs/ResElecCurrent.xls>
> >>> That's the current residential rates.  My guess is that electricity
> >>> would cost about $0.30/kw-hr at the highest rate.
>
> >> Can't see the spreadsheet but IIRC it does cost that much.
>
> > Y'er news header shows that you're using Windoze.  You might want to
> > download the various Word, Excel, and Powerpoint viewers from
> > Microsloth.
>
> > Word 2003:
> > <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=95e24c87-873...>
>
> > Excel 2003:
> > <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c8378bf4-996...>
>
> > PowerPointless 2007:
> > <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=048DC840-14E...>
>
> > Visio 2003:
> > <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=3fb3bd5c-fed...>
>
> >> The reason why PV is popular in Europe is that goverments there provide
> >> HUGE subsidies. They often get well north of 50c/kWh and the other
> >> ratepayers foot the bill. There is no free lunch.
>
> > "The world's largest solar power plant is only the latest addition to
> > Germany's investment in alternative power..."
> > <http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/05/28/100...>
>
> > The way I understand it (from a rather marginal TV documentary) the
> > logic is that when the oil runs out, Germany will have electricity
> > while most other countries will not.  It's also part of creating jobs
> > and dealing with the unemployment problem.  German taxpayers
> > apparently paid about $3.8 billion last year to subsidize alternative
> > engergy sources.  Whatever it takes.
>
> I have Excel. "An unknown error occurred", the usual meaningful MS error
> message :-(
>
> --
> Regards, Joerg

The document is an incomprehensible tangle of special exceptions,
rules, ambiguous and incomplete, with footnotes.  IOW, exactly what
you'd expect from a publicly regulated, legislated anything.  Stay
tuned for public healthcare.

The upshot for most people is _energy_ charges (i.e., excluding
significant other charges) as follows:

Minimum charge of $0.15 per day,
$0.116 / kWh for usage up to "baseline",
$0.131 / kWh for usage up to 130% of "baseline",
$0.226 / kWh for usage up to 200% of "baseline",
increasing to $0.36 / kWh for users going over 300% of "baseline".

Estimated actual, average energy rate paid by a typical customer =
$0.167/kWh

"baseline" isn't specified; the user is referred to another raft of
god-awful charts, tariff rules, spreadsheets, and calculators, varying
per region.

HTH,
James Arthur