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Article #1831Re: Who Killed the Electric Car?
From: Joerg
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 21:41
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 21:41
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Eeyore wrote: > > Jeff Liebermann wrote: > >> On Fri, 16 May 2008 10:47:27 -0700, Joerg >> <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote: >> >>> There is a major stumbling block in areas like ours: Monopoly, plus >>> baseline usage rules the monopoly imposes. The millisecond you exceed >>> baseline by IIRC as little as 30% electricity becomes painfully >>> expensive. Anyone who dared to use their A/C in summer knows that. >>> Unless this changes or one can line up a sweet and most of all longterm >>> night-time deal there won't be a realistic future for electric cars. >> One former EV-1 owner has a solution to the electric power cost >> problem: >> <http://www.solarwarrior.com> >> <http://www.solarwarrior.com/why.html> > > A 30kW peak output PV solar array would cost somewhere in the region of > $120,000 in panels alone by my estimation yet would only provide around > 120kWh of electricity daily (worth around $12) on average. Factor in > financing costs and it simply will NEVER 'pay back' > > Scale that down to a 12kWh EV battery pack daily recharge and it would still > cost you $12,000 PLUS and the associated installation, inverter etc, say > $20k overall. Yet it would only cost about $1.20 for that daily recharge > from the mains. > Not if you live in an area where electricity cost versus monthly usage has the I/V characteristic of a silicon diode. Out here when you reach 130% of baseline that would be the 600mV point. Go beyond that and you'll hear a huge slurping sound. That sound would be coming from your bank account. And that happens in a lot of other places, too. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
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