🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

Article View: sci.electronics.design
Article #1863

Re: Who Killed the Electric Car?

#1863
From: Joerg
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 22:46
85 lines
5833 bytes
Paul E. Schoen wrote:
> "Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message 
> news:4OnXj.1326$qH4.1110@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
>> Jim Thompson wrote:
>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 14:26:56 -0700, Joerg
>>> <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Paul E. Schoen wrote:
>>>>> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message 
>>>>> news:ieidnSvlPKQURrDVnZ2dnUVZ_qjinZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>>>>> Reality.  There isn't enough generating capacity to convert to 
>>>>>> electric
>>>>>> cars.
>>>>> It may not exist at the moment, but the switch to electric (as well as 
>>>>> other more efficient vehicles) must be accompanied by an overall 
>>>>> reduction in our total per-capita energy consumption. Even if new 
>>>>> electric power plants would be built, using the same fossil fuels that 
>>>>> now power automobiles, they would be much more efficient and cleaner 
>>>>> than millions of individual cars and trucks being driven in 
>>>>> stop-and-go traffic. But the ultimate resolution to this problem will 
>>>>> involve people changing their lifestyles, using more public 
>>>>> transportation, living closer to jobs (or telecommuting), and 
>>>>> generally becoming a more cooperative society living and working 
>>>>> closely with other people, rather than isolationism, needless 
>>>>> competition, and broken families.
>>>>>
>>>> Amen! Well said.
>>> Heavens, Yes!  Let's squash competition... and no more bellyaching...
>>> Windows Vista for everyone ;-)
>>>
>> Oh, there'll be competition, has to be. But there shouldn't be a needless 
>> one, such as umpteen shuttle services going to the airport but none to 
>> the local industry parks around here. We can't keep on pretending that 
>> it's ok to keep tooling around in big trucks just to go to the grocery 
>> store. Guess what, people around here have come to their senses about 
>> that. The number of flights leaving our local airstrip is down to about 
>> half, when walking the dogs we see lots of trucks for sale, lots of brand 
>> new Priuses showing up in driveways. Fact is, Toyota has recognized the 
>> signs of the time and GM has not. They'll better get cracking on it, and 
>> soon.
>>
>> As for Vista: I was even contemplating removing the sign at the end of 
>> the driveway because it reads "Casa de la Vista" (we have a great view 
>> and a previous owner put it up).
> 
> The competition I was referring to is the sort that makes drivers do stupid 
> maneuvers to get one or two cars ahead in traffic, or resorting to 
> cutthroat tactics to get advancement in the business world. There is good 
> competition, and as long as it is fair, it results in better products and 
> better people. It's OK for people to engage in sports and games to 
> outmuscle and outsmart each other, but when they buy extra horsepower and 
> bigger vehicles and use them in a deadly real-life game on the roads, it 
> becomes a problem. That is where cooperation is really needed.
> 
> I sure don't want Vista. XP is the first OS (since maybe MSDOS6.22) that 
> seems to be stable and reliable. But at least there is Linux that I would 
> consider if XP were no longer available. I use the automatic update 
> feature, ...


Only over my dead body.


>  ... and I dread the day that I get a particularly lengthy update, and 
> a reboot screen that reads:
> 
> "Welcome to Windows Vista! Microsoft has generously updated your old XP 
> system to our latest wonderful product at absolutely no charge to you! 
> Since you were a little short of disk space, we have removed those old 
> files so you will have more room for the colorful multimedia presentations 
> we have loaded there for your entertainment!"
> 

Or you want to finish that one design that the client needs on Monday 
and you realize that your CAD now only produces "An unknown error has 
occurred and the application is being debugged", followed by 10 minutes 
of trundling and a blue screen.

-- 
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.
Technical Details
Message-ID: <y9oXj.1330$qH4.314@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!nlpi057.nbdc.sbc.com!prodigy.net!nlpi062.nbdc.sbc.com!prodigy.com!flpi107.ffdc.sbc.com!nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com.POSTED!78df62d6!not-for-mail
References: <482d8412$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <ieidnSvlPKQURrDVnZ2dnUVZ_qjinZ2d@earthlink.com> <482dfb01$0$11151$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <J_mXj.1054$qH4.279@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com> <fq0s245mqoeuhep0c1k6uadbhvkqleb5nv@4ax.com> <4OnXj.1326$qH4.1110@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com> <482e0dc0$0$11151$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net>

Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Thread: 112d1e,11cc866c366c95ec
X-Google-Thread: 103407,11cc866c366c95ec
X-Google-Attributes: gid112d1e,gid103407,domainid0,public,usenet
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!nlpi057.nbdc.sbc.com!prodigy.net!nlpi062.nbdc.sbc.com!prodigy.com!flpi107.ffdc.sbc.com!nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com.POSTED!78df62d6!not-for-mail
From: Joerg <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net>
User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,aus.electronics
Subject: Re: Who Killed the Electric Car?
References: <482d8412$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <ieidnSvlPKQURrDVnZ2dnUVZ_qjinZ2d@earthlink.com> <482dfb01$0$11151$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <J_mXj.1054$qH4.279@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com> <fq0s245mqoeuhep0c1k6uadbhvkqleb5nv@4ax.com> <4OnXj.1326$qH4.1110@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com> <482e0dc0$0$11151$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net>
In-Reply-To: <482e0dc0$0$11151$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 85
Message-ID: <y9oXj.1330$qH4.314@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 75.26.179.49
X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net
X-Trace: nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com 1210978014 ST000 75.26.179.49 (Fri, 16 May 2008 18:46:54 EDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 18:46:54 EDT
Organization: at&t http://my.att.net/
X-UserInfo1: Q[R_PJSCTS@GRQ\Y\ZJB^WTAUKXD@D@MGPW^OBPLAH[\BPIB_NVUAH_[BL[\IRKIANGGJBFNJF_DOLSCENSY^U@FRFUEXR@KFXYDBPWBCDQJA@X_DCBHXR[C@\EOKCJLED_SZ@RMWYXYWE_P@\\GOIW^@SYFFSWHFIXMADO@^[ADPRPETLBJ]RDGENSKQQZN
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 15:46:45 -0700