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Article #1890Re: High side driving N-channel Mosfet with PWM
From: swanny
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 23:55
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 23:55
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Fred Bloggs wrote: > >> So I would have thought that this would be a simple problem but the >> more information I get the more I get confused...... >> >> >> I want to PWM a whole lot of LEDs. The current consumption of the bank >> of LEDs is in the order of 15 Amps, at 12V. >> >> For reasons I won't go into, my only option is to use a high side mosfet. >> >> I have chosen an N-channel MOSFET (IRL3803) mainly because of its huge >> current capability and very low on resistance of 7 milli ohms. >> >> I am hoping to use PWM at a reasonably high frequency, say 20khz or >> higher, and I want to use an efficient MOSFET driver IC that is >> designed for the job. >> >> I understand that to switch an N channel mosfet on the high side of >> the supply line, I have to drive the gate with 10V **more** than the >> supply voltage. This is correct yes? >> >> This is where the question comes in. I am looking at the option of >> using the IRS2001 to switch the high side fet. But looking at the >> datasheet, I am confused. How can the IRS2001 generate a voltage >> greater than VCC without actually being connected to the high side >> voltage????? There is no talk of a charge pump in the description and >> in any case it does not know what potential the fet is connected to.. >> >> Maybe it is not suitable for my application as the IRS2001 seems to be >> used for switch mode power supplies? I can't make sense of the first >> diagram on the datasheet. >> >> here is a link to the datasheet: >> >> http://www.irf.com/product-info/datasheets/data/irs2001spbf.pdf >> >> >> >> OK so if the above IC is not suitable, I have been looking at the MAX621. >> >> http://datasheets.maxim-ic.com/en/ds/MAX620-MAX621.pdf >> >> This one looks to be more straight forward. But I'm not sure how this >> IC will go with 20Khz switching. There are many **low side** mosfet >> drivers that are in the 2 to 7 amp range to ensure that the mosfets >> are hard on or hard off within a few nS. This one doesn't look like it >> will do anywhere near that switching current. >> >> >> Any other ideas for a high side N channel driver IC that packs a punch? >> > > You're going about this all wrong, no one makes a dimmable LED supply > like this, the main reason being your excessive ripple current resulting > in unnecessary heating and exponential reduction in LED lifetime. > Another good reason for not doing it this way is to avoid the fairly > huge current spikes resulting from what will be a hefty equivalent load > capacitance producing enough EMI to be detected in another galaxy. And > you want to go to all this trouble to produce a crap design because it's > the only thing you understand. Do some background reading: > http://powerelectronics.com/mag/710PET24.pdf and put more effort into > your planning. > > Somebody stuffed up Fig. 2, didn't they.
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