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"Alan Rutlidge" <don't_spam_me_rutlidge@iinet.net.au> wrote in message 
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> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@_SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au> wrote in message 
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>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q_irQTOUwA
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>>>>> Thanks for that.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://rtr.ca/welec_w2022a/
>>>>> Ouch! Obviously not re-badge...
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>>>> **Ouch indeed. If something looks too good to be true.....
>>>>
>>>> For the record: A mate travelled to China late last year (he is a tech) 
>>>> and I instructed him to find and purchase a Rigol 'scope for me. The 
>>>> prices asked were not so different to those in Australia. Further: His 
>>>> girlfriend is Chinese and performed all negotiations for him. He was 
>>>> unable to obtain one at what I consider was a reasonable price (IE: 
>>>> Around $500.00 for a model which sells for around $1,800.00 in Oz).
>>>>
>>>> Trevor Wilson
>>> Just goes to show that 50 years of Communism didn't squash a good 
>>> capitalist idea.
>>> $500 for a $1800 rrp in Oz is bit much of an ask TW.  It isn't an ME 
>>> amplifier. :P
>>> Maybe $700 - 800?
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>> **Given that I know of one popular Chinese built CD player which sells in 
>> Australia for nearly $4k and has an FOB price of US$400.00 in China, 
>> then, no. $500.00 sounds about right. Aussies are being gouged for a lot 
>> of Chinese built products right now. If I buy a product which is built in 
>> a developing nation, I expect to pay developing nation prices. It's like 
>> my favourite hiking boots. Ecco. They were made in Denmark and cost 
>> $270.00 a pair. Now, they're made in Malaysia and STILL cost $270.00 a 
>> pair. As a consequence, I no longer support the brand.
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>> Trevor Wilson
> That doesn't surprise me TW.  Nearly everything is made in 3rd world 
> countries these days.

**Yep. If a product is made in a developing nation, it needs to offer 
significant differences (lower price, higher performance, etc) for me to buy 
it. The difficulty is that as more products are built in DNs, it will be 
harder to identify the rip-offs. It is also difficult for consumers to 
identify companies which treat employees unfairly. However, experience tells 
us that China will eventually move to a fairer system (for employees) and 
consequently higher prices to the consumer. I'm guessing this may take at 
least 10 years or so.

> Cheap labour, no penalty rates, poor or not existent OH&S, zero 
> environmental policies - you name it.

**Indeed.

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> Unfortunately most Australian customers are still going to by the Ecco 
> shoes.

**That is a good thing and a bad thing. Even though they are sourced from 
Malaysia, they are excellent shoes. Unfortunately, the pricing model is 
still operating as if they were manufactured in Denmark.

  They don't care unless the price actually goes up significantly and
> they don't care where they are made or under what conditions.  Just take a 
> look at Nokia mobile phones.  Still one of the leading brands - now made 
> in China.

**Yep. Unfortunately, Nokia has probably been forced to do so. They operate 
in an incredibly competitive market place. Perhaps they should take a leaf 
from B&O's book:

http://www.cnet.com.au/mobilephones/phones/0,239025953,339285481,00.htm

A mobile 'phone for 2 GRAND!

AND it's made in Korea!

No camera, no GPS. Just a 'phone and a music player.

Trevor Wilson

Trevor Wilson