🚀 go-pugleaf

In article <dafol711s6vn5v2ilqir5fep0j2acf8q2d@4ax.com>, 
joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net says...
> 
> On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:42:25 +1100, Chris Baird
> <abuse@brushtail.apana.org.au> wrote:
> 
> >>> 64MB! (and promises it running Android!)
> >>> 
> >>> Even a programming language like Haskell, run from the command line,
> >>> needs more core than that. C++ programs can easy need 200MB+ of real
> >>> RAM to compile.
> >
> > > Um, not. That is the GUI/DE that eats all that RAM. The actual
> > > functionality is maybe 5 to 10 % of that.
> >
> >Are you using the Hollywood edition of C++ with Gibson extensions
> >enabled? (Usually installed under the name 'Java'.)
> >
> >Memory usage while compiling KDE4 C++ sources from the command line:
> >
> >  PID USERNAME PRI NICE   SIZE   RES STATE      TIME   WCPU    CPU COMMAND
> > 1333 root      25    0   332M  316M CPU/0      0:17 96.03% 57.03% cc1plus
> > 1351 root      85    0    48M   32M pager_/4   0:00  2.47%  1.46% as
> >
> >316MB in use by the compiler. C++ is Peeeg. And then there's Java, which
> >is Mrs Peeeeg after 8 years of marriage..
> >
> >And it was said this proposed supercheap 64MB RAM RaspberryPi killer
> >would run Android and its Java systems. Uh, you need at least 768MB of
> >RAM for Android to be usable at all.
> 
> The toolchain were not on the RPi. It was just the target.  Just the same
> your point has been made, those toolchains take gigs.
> 
> ?-)
So to do any programming of the RPi,  you still need a PC with Linux 
either native or in a virtual machine.  Of course the same is true of
any other low-cost system.

It does seem disingenuous to promote the idea that you could do 
significant hardware and  C software development with the RPi and just
a keyboard, monitor and mouse.  You really need a PC and a second
keyboard, monitor and mouse unless you plan to switch a lot of cables
when you want to test your software.


Mark Borgerson