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Article #2190Re: high resolution optical encoder patterns.
From: Rod Speed
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 06:03
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 06:03
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"Cory Seligman" <coryms+google@azazel.eng.monash.edu.au> wrote in message news:a64581c0.0310052014.27d17e70@posting.google.com... > "Frank Bemelman" <bemelmanx@euronet.nl.invalid> wrote in message news:<3f747ee2$0$28885$1b62eedf@news.euronet.nl>... > > "Cory Seligman" <coryms+google@azazel.eng.monash.edu.au> schreef in bericht > > news:a64581c0.0309242126.7a4fe4ee@posting.google.com... > > > > So I got some Agilent HEDR-8100 detector chips. they have the lenses > > > built in and do all the hard work for you. The only problem is that > > > they're 150 lines per inch, which is more than I can do reliably on a > > > laser printer. So I'm looking for alternatives. > > > If you place a transparent filter on top, also printed with 1mm stripes, > > you don't need a very well adjusted sensor. When the rod with the stripes > > move behind the filter, even you can clearly see that it moves. Most > > optical encoders work like that, makes them get away with pretty coarse leds > > and fotodiodes. > > > Place two filters with the stripes 90 degrees apart for A & B signals. > > The effect is named after Moire, it's inventor, I think. > > Thanks for the ideas. I have a suspicion that the optical devices I'm > using already exploit the Moire effect, since they appear to only work > at 150 lpi. This would indicate that they already have a 150lpi screen > internally. > The optical mouse sensor idea is something I already thought > of, but the specs for some of the modules they use show > fairly lousy repeatability, which I guess amkes sense. Makes no sense at all, you dont see any problem like that using a good one. > I need pretty good (0.5 mm or so) repeatability. Should be completely trivial with a decent optical mouse and the most you might want to do is make sure that what you are running it on isnt dead smooth like glass etc. > I have yet to have any success with ink jet printer on transparencies. > The ink is either too think, blobbing up and obscuring the gaps, or > not dark enough to block the reflection. Perhaps I need better > stationary. Yeah, thats completely trivial to do properly too. Basically just the right combination of transparent film and ink. > In any case, I've ordered the lower resolution (75 lpi) encoders. I've > printed out some 75 lpi stripes, and checked them under a microscope. > They look clear and distinct, so I'm just going to go with that. > > thanks for the responses though. > > Cory
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 112d1e,13582bf85c4f8271 X-Google-Attributes: gid112d1e,public X-Google-Thread: 103407,13582bf85c4f8271 X-Google-Attributes: gid103407,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-10-06 23:03:01 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!m019-015.nv.iinet.net.AU!not-for-mail From: "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,aus.electronics Subject: Re: high resolution optical encoder patterns. Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 16:03:01 +1000 Lines: 54 Message-ID: <bltkuj$g1593$1@ID-69072.news.uni-berlin.de> References: <a64581c0.0309242126.7a4fe4ee@posting.google.com> <3f747ee2$0$28885$1b62eedf@news.euronet.nl> <a64581c0.0310052014.27d17e70@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: m019-015.nv.iinet.net.au (203.217.19.15) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1065506580 16815395 203.217.19.15 (16 [69072]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106