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Article #2254Re: Source of ripple in simple PS circuit?
From: CJT
Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 06:46
Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 06:46
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DaveC wrote: > I agreed to help my friend find out why his 5-channel surround system > (Harmon-Kardon; don't remember model number) has 60hz hum in all speakers. > Hum is uneffected by the volume control. It is not in the headphone circuit. > > There is a small power supply circuit that feeds +15 and -15 vdc to some of > the ICs on the power amp PCB. This circuit consists of a small transformer > with c.t. secondary feeding a single bridge rectifier. Tied to the plus and > minus side of the bridge are two 2200uF 35v electrolytic caps. Beyond each of > these caps is a (pi?) filter: 47uF elect. cap (to ground), a series resistor, > and another 47uF elect. cap (to ground). > > These two supply "rails" each feed 15v 3-terminal voltage regulators, one > +15v, one -15v. > > The plus supply has ripple voltage on it everywhere in the circuit. I checked > the voltage at the 2200uF cap with a scope and saw the ripple, and said "Bad > filter cap" and replaced it. Ripple remains. I pulled each of the 47uF caps > and tested them with a Fluke cap tester. They are within 1uF of spec. > > I had to leave my friend's place before getting to diagnose it further, but I > can't think of what else could cause this ripple. I am aware of the epidemic > of failing electrolytics. Is a capacitance test sufficient to declare a cap > good? Or must I test resistance, also? Can a shorted bridge diode introduce > ripple? I haven't yet checked the series resistor in the filter. If this > changed value, could this cause ripple? > > I've checked for bad solder joints. I can't imagine that the v.reg. can > introduce ripple into the filter circuit. Can it? > > Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, Maybe one of the diodes in the bridge is shorted (although that ought to blow a fuse). Even the biggest capacitor won't remove the ripple from AC!
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