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Article #2287Re: Supply for LV lighting application?
From: Al Hephy
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:32
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:32
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Where did you have in mind? Home made fixtures not only are legal, but most hardware stores sell kits for amateurs. It's a hobby some places. Al Wes <wesk@prodigy.net> wrote in message news:Gz7ha.44$5u2.26@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com... > Not sure what country you're in, but you will NEVER pass a local code > inspector in the US (if in an area that requires inspection) with home made > fixtures. > > Another issue to consider. The greatest concern you face with 12v systems > is voltage drop. If you have LONG runs, this will become a significant > problem. DO NOT use small cable... #12 is the preferred roadway if running > under 75ft (IMO)... and another issue to consider is amperage. Remember > that #12 cable is good for 20 amps. I'm sure you're very aware of the > formula to figure your max allowable... and I'd urge you to consider no more > than 300 watts on ANY circuit. DO NOT pump up the transformer in order to > put more fixtures on that circuit. > > In fact, most major manufacturers in the US rate all transformers at > 300Watts or less. And in 12V landscape lighting, UL will not permit any > circuit above 300 Watts. > > Hope that helps, and feel welcome to drop me a line for more info. > > Wes > > > "DaveC" <anon@bugus.net> wrote in message > news:0001HW.BA977EAD001869E90E6B7920@news.covad.net... > > I've been asked to help light a small office building hallway. The > > fluorescent lamps are way too harsh for the office workers, and the > tenants > > favor the overhead QH approach. > > > > I've looked at the local home centers' lighting departments and see quite > a > > selection of LV systems using overhead steel cable with 3 hanging > reflector > > bulbs (with a choice of trim, or not) tapped in at appropriate intervals. > > > > Price for the above from $70-100us. > > > > Being encouraged by what I saw, I decided to see what I could build from > > scratch. > > > > As you probably can guess, I'm running into current supply/demand > > limitations. Each of the 2 hallways could use about 15 lamps. Lamps are > > available in 20 and 50w versions, which at 12v, draw approximately 1.7a > and > > 4.2a, respectively. I now see why the cost of such a system is mostly for > the > > supply. > > > > Looking for a ready-made 12v supply, I find this at Jameco for $70us that > > provides 12.5a: > > > > <http://www.jameco.com/cgi- > > > bin/ncommerce3/ExecMacro/Jameco/searchResult.d2w/report?sort=BPA&search=1234 > 22 > > > > > > > This would allow me to run 7 of the 20w lamps, or only 2 of the 50w lamps. > > > > I can't see buying 2 supplies to run the 15 (well, I guess we could rev > that > > to 14) lamps in each hall. I seem to be butting up against Ohm's Law. > > > > Maybe build a simple, unreg'd, analog power supply with massive > transformer > > and rectifiers for 30A? > > > > Any other ideas (or links to sites) to help me reach a solution would be > > greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > -- > > Dave C > > dave+usenet3016@mailblocks.net > > > > > >
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