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Article #649Re: OT: Only in America
From: Bill Sloman
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:07
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:07
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On Nov 8, 8:12 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote: > On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:15:54 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman > > <bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote: > >On Nov 8, 4:47 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote: > >> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:06:58 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman > > >> <bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote: > >> >On Nov 7, 2:23 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote: <snip> > >Your attempts at sarcasm are noted, but they are on a par with your > >attempts at logic. > Which you don't get, either. I understand what you think you are demonstrating but since your logic isn't actually valid, there's no real content to get. > >The fact that I don't need to work doesn't mean that I don't want to > >work, but it does mean that I can reject boring work, like stacking > >shelves at the local supermarket. The local employment situation has > >perked up enough that I fianlly found a local job I could apply for > >earlier this week, not that I think that I've got much chance of > >getting it. > > Wishful thinking, perhaps? Experience. > >> Since your unfamiliarity with the device itself from a hands-on point of > >> view suggests that you only learned about the problem from Kamenzind's > >> book, I suggest you're the one suffering from a lack of circuit design > >> experience since the rest of us generally solved the problem by > >> connecting an adequate reservoir capacitor across the chip's supply > >> terminals. > > >How very clever of you. What do you do when that isn't enough? > > --- > Read the next sentence. > --- > > >> With the advent of CMOS 555s, however, (Maxim's ICM7555 for instance) > >> the problem has been eliminated. > > >Idiot. > > --- > The problem _hasn't_ been eliminated, then??? > > Check page 6 of: > > http://datasheets.maxim-ic.com/en/ds/ICM7555-ICM7556.pdf > > For Maxim's take on it. Right. If you aren't switching any load current - and the Maxim output switch is remarkably pathetic for something that is touted as a substitute for a 555, the monostable/bistable part of the circuit is less likely to be messed up by switching spikes. This isn't eliminating the problem, merely just avoiding the more flagrant examples of it. > >> >Those of his circuits that I worked with were not easy to use but they > >> >did work. > > >> A poor workman blames his tools. > > >Because a good workman finds or makes good tools. > > --- > And you made easier to use versions of his chips? No, I found other peoples' easier-to-use versions of his chips. It helped that they also saved board space. <snip> -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
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