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Re: OT: Only in America

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From: Bill Sloman
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:07
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On Nov 8, 8:12 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:15:54 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
>
> <bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
> >On Nov 8, 4:47 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:06:58 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
>
> >> <bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
> >> >On Nov 7, 2:23 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:

<snip>

> >Your attempts at sarcasm are noted, but they are on a par with your
> >attempts at logic.

> Which you don't get, either.

I understand what you think you are demonstrating but since your logic
isn't actually valid, there's no real content to get.

> >The fact that I don't need to work doesn't mean that I don't want to
> >work, but it does mean that I can reject boring work, like stacking
> >shelves at the local supermarket. The local employment situation has
> >perked up enough that I fianlly found a local job I could apply for
> >earlier this week, not that I think that I've got much chance of
> >getting it.
>
> Wishful thinking, perhaps?

Experience.

> >> Since your unfamiliarity with the device itself from a hands-on point of
> >> view suggests that you only learned about the problem from Kamenzind's
> >> book, I suggest you're the one suffering from a lack of circuit design
> >> experience since the rest of us generally solved the problem by
> >> connecting an adequate reservoir capacitor across the chip's supply
> >> terminals.
>
> >How very clever of you. What do you do when that isn't enough?
>
> ---
> Read the next sentence.
> ---
>
> >> With the advent of CMOS 555s, however, (Maxim's ICM7555 for instance)
> >> the problem has been eliminated.
>
> >Idiot.
>
> ---
> The problem _hasn't_ been eliminated, then???
>
> Check page 6 of:
>
> http://datasheets.maxim-ic.com/en/ds/ICM7555-ICM7556.pdf
>
> For Maxim's take on it.

Right. If you aren't switching any load current - and the Maxim output
switch is remarkably pathetic for something that is touted as a
substitute for a 555, the monostable/bistable part of the circuit is
less likely to be messed up by switching spikes. This isn't
eliminating the problem, merely just avoiding the more flagrant
examples of it.

> >> >Those of his circuits that I worked with were not easy to use but they
> >> >did work.
>
> >> A poor workman blames his tools.
>
> >Because a good workman finds or makes good tools.
>
> ---
> And you made easier to use versions of his chips?

No, I found other peoples' easier-to-use versions of his chips. It
helped that they also saved board space.

<snip>

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
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Subject: Re: OT: Only in America
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