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Article #719Re: What can I do to keep this board from warping?
From: Smitty Two
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 05:38
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 05:38
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In article <kk62c51rq1rhdq9he33du6t99nbjp1pqga@4ax.com>, Archimedes' Lever <OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote: > On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 06:21:13 -0700, Smitty Two <prestwhich@earthlink.net> > wrote: > > >In article <r7l0c5l9457i2ug2u6143cp6pllirtrauu@4ax.com>, > > Archimedes' Lever <OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote: > > > >> >As far as temperature, I agree with you. I've never found a need to > >> >solder anything at less than 800F. Smaller parts just require shorter > >> >dwell time. > >> > >> This one is off the mark. Perhaps you meant "at MORE than 800�F" > >> That would certainly be an upper max for me, and it is quite easy to > >> solder at much lower temperatures. Well over a 100 degree differential, > >> and that is significant. > > > >Pardon my ambiguity. What I meant to say was "anything other than 800F." > >That's the upper limit on most fixed-temperature tips, or adjustable > >irons. > > > Yes, and despite most folks cranking the damned things up that high, > basic soldering operations (pre-RoHS) were NEVER meant to be performed at > that high a temperature. Even on big 0.092" stock with lots of Copper. > In that case, one should pre-heat the whole assembly a couple hundred �F, > which will insure that all the solder joints wet well and flow through > properly. Uh-huh. I've personally hand soldered hundreds of thousands of joints at 800F, and overseen the soldering of millions. Turning down the flame has only one result: It takes too damn long to build the board. It's sort of like the clock speed on a computer. It doesn't matter much if something takes 1 second instead of 1/10 second, but it makes a big difference if it takes an hour instead of 6 minutes. When I was a kid I built some Heathkit stuff and spent 30 seconds making every solder connection, because the iron was underpowered and I didn't know enough to know it. Machine soldering is different, of course, but for hand work, 800 is perfect for everything and anything.
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