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Article #746Re: More on the Oscilloscope/Static pickup issue
From: John Devereux
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:52
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:52
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RFI-EMI-GUY <Rhyolite@NETTALLY.COM> writes: > David L. Jones wrote: >> notme wrote: >>> On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 05:22:31 -0700, David L. Jones wrote >>> (in article <%TXam.45224$3m2.4738@newsfe06.iad>): >>> >>>> http://www.edn.com/blog/1700000170/post/1120046912.html >>> So, it's not a phenomenon of that scope, but an example of how long >>> ground clips can get you into trouble at high frequencies, regardless >>> the tool at the other end of the probe. >> >> Nothing to do with the long clip lead on the end, as I >> demonstrated. Regular issues with long ground clips at high >> frequency is another problem entirely. >> You can have the best and shortest ground clip possible and you'll >> still get this effect, picked up by the probe coax. >> And the latest video shows you don't even need the cable connected >> at all to get a response. >> >> Enjoy. >> Dave. > > Try with an older analog scope with a metal cabinet. I think you have > uncovered a shielding weakness with the newer digital scopes. The > resonant frequency is probably coincidental with the internal > circuitry or groundplane geometry of the scope I was thinking that. The IEEE standard for characterising ESD pulse generators requires the whole scope to be put in a Faraday cage. -- John Devereux
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X-Google-Thread: a5a6238865,5bba74dd82ef2ea2 X-Google-Attributes: gida5a6238865,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!feed.xsnews.nl!border-1.ams.xsnews.nl!tudelft.nl!txtfeed1.tudelft.nl!zen.net.uk!dedekind.zen.co.uk!news-peer-lilac.gradwell.net!not-for-mail From: John Devereux <john@devereux.me.uk> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,aus.electronics Subject: Re: More on the Oscilloscope/Static pickup issue References: <%TXam.45224$3m2.4738@newsfe06.iad> <0001HW.C691CB63009FA4D0B08A39AF@news.eternal-september.org> <r2Lbm.48322$ZN.32574@newsfe23.iad> <4a705edb$0$4953$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:52:48 +0100 Message-ID: <87hbwvv8vz.fsf@cordelia.devereux.me.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.96 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:8tDohJDm0CeVSRyKZ+9vX5CyHzM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 35 NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.169.26.216 X-Trace: 1248879224 news.aaisp.net.uk 31037 217.169.26.216:42643 X-Complaints-To: aaispnews-abuse@gradwell.net