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Article #892Re: An unusual Oscilloscope phenomenon
From: Rich Grise
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:27
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:27
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On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:39:08 -0700, John Larkin wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:48:35 -0400, Phil Hobbs > <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: >>John Larkin wrote: >>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:42:07 -0700, <castlebravo242@att.net> wrote: >>> >>>> ... was reading it would get data errors. The problem was that the >>>> shield on the cable from the heads to the preamp was grounded on both >>>> ends. >>> >>> That's usually the best way to ground shields. >>> >>Depends. With floating transducers and shielded twisted pair, it's best >>to ground the shield only at the transducer end. That way any >>capacitive imbalance doesn't produce any currents, because the shield is >>at the transducer's idea of ground. >> >> > At the receive (instrument) end, the ungrounded end of the coax shield > becomes the hot side of a resonant "vertical" antenna. Any voltage there > becomes 100% common-mode signal on the inner twisted pair. > > What's wrong with a little current in the shield? The signal pair isn't > affected. But volts, or tens of volts, of common-mode RF can be nasty. > I think half of us are talking about low-noise audio frequencies, and half of us are talking about RF. The way I heard it, you leave one end unshielded for audio preamps and stuff, but ground both ends for RF; I think it has to do with wavelength and, well, propagation characteristics. Of course, the thing that was drummed into me while they were teaching me this was "GROUND LOOPS!". :-) Cheers! Rich
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