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Article #922Re: An unusual Oscilloscope phenomenon
From: Joerg
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:52
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:52
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John Larkin wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:37:54 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> > wrote: > >> John Larkin wrote: >>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:56:30 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> >>> wrote: >>> >> [...] >> >>>> Probably the litmus test for RF stuff like this is when people schlepp >>>> it to Otis Street and see if it can survive Sutro Tower. >>> It's terrible here. Scope traces are gross fuzz, and all sorts of >>> opamp front-ends like to rectify stuff. >>> >>> You should see the spectrum of a 10" clip lead. >>> >>> http://www.jimprice.com/sutro/tower1.jpg >>> >> Once I took off on a Europe flight out of SFO and the antenna top stuck >> out of the clouds while the rest of the tower was in the white. Picture >> perfect, and I had my camera in the overhead <aargh>. I could still bite >> myself, that opportunity never came again. > > A couple of times I've been up on Twin Peaks and there was a sharply > defined fog layer below. Only a couple of big buildings poke through, > and a few plumes from power plants and such. > > Sometimes the sun gets under the fog at sunrise/sunset. Cool. > > ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/Kit1.JPG > Nice. Would be even nicer without the attached city :-) > >> >>> We did do a useful simulation of a system that has a superconductive >>> magnet/front end on one side of a room and some ADCs on the other >>> side. We convinced ourselves that we need to go differential. >>> >> Yesterday I had my comeuppance WRT to the Instek GDS-2204 scope that I >> thought is so much better than Tektronix. In many ways it is, and also >> doesn't have the nasty conducted emissions on the probe cables. But when >> debugging 74MHz gear I could not figure out where a weird buzz was >> coming from. Until I turned off the scope ... > > CPU clock maybe? > Possibly. It even happens in standby power so maybe it's the SMPS in there. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
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X-Google-Thread: a5a6238865,2fb4482ba391e6 X-Google-Attributes: gida5a6238865,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!news1.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,aus.electronics Subject: Re: An unusual Oscilloscope phenomenon Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:52:11 -0700 Organization: Consultant Lines: 59 Message-ID: <7ak5l3F1vacttU3@mid.individual.net> References: <h8B0m.53620$FI5.3564@newsfe12.iad> <C5D0m.1651$vO4.300@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com> <n41645hvv4ia1uqa1cnbriilvg4vg1td2a@4ax.com> <z_udncS2Q9vvJd7XnZ2dnUVZ_odi4p2d@supernews.com> <u4k745pit2pm2qep1k9apmcgda9ugb1uqe@4ax.com> <7ai33oF1vqpohU1@mid.individual.net> <2tn7459qjpph02nm0vst7rbgu3hilkvmbo@4ax.com> <7ai91tF1t8jlnU1@mid.individual.net> <ulc8451juci82l1rmlfqh23o5puknfvi9v@4ax.com> Reply-To: news@analogconsultants.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net SM2r0FlIhA4DJnArnSEDgAa7gStg5dOLUw3GpGmp76SM+MZ8GT Cancel-Lock: sha1:t2+fso5pSdYX2x/HjXTygbWPSWs= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) In-Reply-To: <ulc8451juci82l1rmlfqh23o5puknfvi9v@4ax.com>