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Article #940Re: An unusual Oscilloscope phenomenon
From: Joerg
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:42
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:42
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John Larkin wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:17:58 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> > wrote: > >> John Larkin wrote: >>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:50:09 GMT, Rich Grise <richgrise@example.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:01:51 -0700, John Larkin wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:42:07 -0700, <castlebravo242@att.net> wrote: >>>>>> "David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:h8B0m.53620$FI5.3564@newsfe12.iad... >>>>>>> Check out a rather unusual phenomenon you can see on your oscilloscope in >>>>>>> my latest blog (#14): >>>>>>> http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/ >>>>>>> See if you can get it to happen on your scope! >>>>>>> I'll offer a free subscription to my blog for the best screen shot posted >>>>>>> :-> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh, and the probe doesn't have to be shorted either. >>>>>> When I worked a Century Data we had a problem with our new reel to reel >>>>>> vaccuum column tape drive when ever someone would walk by the drive when it >>>>>> was reading it would get data errors. The problem was that the shield on the >>>>>> cable from the heads to the preamp was grounded on both ends. >>>>> That's usually the best way to ground shields. >>>> When I was a kid, my brother built a Heathkit TOOB amp; in the low level >>>> circuits, they only ever grounded one end of the shields. >>>> >>> Inside a steel chassis pan, it wouldn't matter. But then Heathkit was >>> hardly an authority on signal management. >>> >> Now wait a minute, they engineered darn good stuff. The old HW100/101 >> transceivers were among the best ever made back in the tube days. Still >> got one. No noises or buzzes whatsoever and its performance in the >> vicinity of strong signals is stellar. The only not so good thing was >> the two rubber pulleys because they cooked out too fast, but you could >> keep a stash of them in the drawer. > > Toob amps didn't rectify RF as well as silicon does. > But: We used such transceivers in multi/multi type ham radio contests and field days. There you had to deal with another 100W transmitter blasting into an antenna maybe 100ft away. You could make a light bulb glow on the other antenna. Many transceivers fell off the rocker there, the only ones that always performed were the super-expensive Collins line and the Heathkit at the budget end of the price scale. If their signal management wasn't up to snuff this would never have worked. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
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