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Article #944Re: An unusual Oscilloscope phenomenon
From: miso
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:35
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:35
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On Jun 25, 11:05ย am, Fred Bartoli <" "> wrote: > John Larkin a รฉcrit : > > > > > On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:31:09 +0800, TonyS <scarboro...@gmail.nspm.com> > > wrote: > > >> John Larkin wrote: > >>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:42:07 -0700, <castlebravo...@att.net> wrote: > > >>>> "David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote in message > >>>>news:h8B0m.53620$FI5.3564@newsfe12.iad... > >>>>> Check out a rather unusual phenomenon you can see on your oscilloscope in > >>>>> my latest blog (#14): > >>>>>http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/ > >>>>> See if you can get it to happen on your scope! > >>>>> I'll offer a free subscription to my blog for the best screen shot posted > >>>>> :-> > > >>>>> Oh, and the probe doesn't have to be shorted either. > > >>>>> Have fun. > >>>>> Dave. > >>>>> -- > >>>>> ================================================ > >>>>> Check out my Electronics Engineering Video Blog & Podcast: > >>>>>http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/ > > >>>> When I worked a Century Data we had a problem with our new reel to reel > >>>> vaccuum column tape drive when ever someone would walk by the drive when it > >>>> was reading it would get data errors. The problem was that the shield on the > >>>> cable from the heads to the preamp was grounded on both ends. > > >>>> Bob > > >>> That's usually the best way to ground shields. > > >>> John > > >> IIRC head signals mostly went via twisted pair. If they had a shield as well we > >> would certainly not ground them on both sides. > > > You *want* large amounts of high-frequency common-mode noise? > > Probably. Lots of people don't understand this and I've seen this kind > of mistake (opened shield) recommended in lots of highly regarded EMC books. > > But that's really nice for us. (Joerg?) > > -- > Thanks, > Fred. Is that open end shield rather than opened shield, or am I missing something here. Grounding one side is pretty common knowledge, though you get arguments over which side to ground.
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