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Article #106Re: is third transformer hole an earth?
From: Peter Hucker
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:51
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:51
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On Sat, 08 Nov 2008 22:16:47 -0000, Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote: > On 2008-11-08, catchme <someone@somewhere.net> wrote: >> john downie2 wrote: >>> my brother wishes wishes to take an Acer Aspire One mini-notebook to japan, >>> from London, u.k. . >>> >>> He already has in his house a lead with a japanese type mains plug on one >>> end and the normal type two pin femail type plug (the same as often goes >>> into radios, etc) that will go into the computer transformer. >>> >>> But we see that the Aspire One has an additional *third* hole alongside the >>> usual two hole plug that goes into the computer transformer. The three holes >>> forming a triangle shape. >>> >>> Is it alright to use our existing two hole Japanese type lead and then only >>> use *two* out of the three pins coming from the aspire transformer, please? >>> >>> My guess is that the third hole is only an *earth* connection. although this >>> might be an additional safety feature, our main concern is whether it might >>> do any damage to use the two pin only lead? >>> >>> I have emailed the technical services department and the spares department, >>> but neither will answer the question, only want to sell me one of their >>> three hole leads. Thanks for your advice. >>> >>> >>> >> yes, the 3rd hole is a ground, but while the voltage in Japan is >> similiar to North America (despite Japan only having 2 leads), i dont >> know what the voltage is in the UK. >> Japan runs 110v. on a 60a circuit, whereas Canada does 120. > > UK standard domestic mains runs at 240V 50 Hz and most houses have been > wired with "13 Amp ringmains" since the '60s. Our standard 13 Amp plugs > and sockets have three pins; there are no standard 2-pin plugs that fit > the 3-pin mains sockets - which require a third pin to open the shutters > in the 'live' and 'neutral' holes before anything can be inserted into > them (the earth pin being longer than the other two). Appliances which > don't need an earth connection can be fitted with plugs having a plastic > 'earth pin' (which presumably saves manufacturers money). And costs you money when you stand on one and snap the pin off. Even worse when it's a wall wart. > Japan's mains apparently runs at 100V, 50 or 60 Hz, and the plugs and > sockets are only superficially similar to those used in the US. They seem > to be rated at 10 12 or 15 Amps. (60 Amps would be pretty nasty if things > went a little awry, even if a 6 KW fire might be useful). Our UK ring mains are 6kW too, why are you surprised? Three-pin > earthed sockets are apparently not as common as might be desired. See > <http://www.powercords.co.uk/standard.htm#JAPAN> > <http://www.powercords.co.uk/pc123.htm> > -- http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com A woman storms into her boss's office with this complaint: "All the other women in the office are suing you for sexual harassment. "Since you haven't sexually harassed me, I'm suing you for discrimination."
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