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Article #1075Re: GVC M1566P monitor pulsing power supply.
From: Alan Liefting
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 00:30
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 00:30
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Thanks for that Craig. The FET did not blow in this case. I have replaced the 3842 and a few other bits (see previous posts). Craig Hart wrote: > > The UC3842 is Sooooooooo common in monitors, and the fault you describe is > also very common, as is total failure with a shorted FET. > > Generally, the UC3842's surrounding circuitry is at fault. 80% of the time > the filter electrolytic on the +12v pin of the UC3842 is faulty (typical > value ~220uf), 15% of the time the other parts that generate the +12v rail > are faulty (very often this is two series wired 270k-330k 1/2 watt jobs from > the +330v rail). The other 5% of the time, the UC chip iself is faulty. > > Typically, if you're repairing a fault where the switching FET blew, change > the FET, UC, the FET drive resistor/components (there's often a small signal > diode and a zener as well), the electro on the +12v rail to the UC and the > low ohm current sense resistor as these will almost always be shot. Many > times the +12v rail generation resistors will be high and need changing too > (very often this is two series wired 270k-330k 1/2 watt jobs from the +330v > rail). > > If it's hiccuping but not blown up completely, the filter electro is > normally the cause. A key testpoint is the +5v reference from the UC chip - > if this isn't present, and the +12v rail is OK, suspect the UC. > > Generally we change all these parts as standard, since a UC and a handfull > of passives is cheap enough, and another blown FET + labour to do it twice > is expensive. > > Craig > > "Alan Liefting" <aliefting@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message > news:3C967D91.B796C3A8@ihug.co.nz... > > > > > > Rudolf Ladyzhenskii wrote: > > > > > > In this case, get datasheet for 3842 (from Motorola -- UC3842). > > > > It is burnt into my retinas! > > > > > Make sure that its VCC is 12V. Pin7 from memory. > > > > Vcc is not critical (within limits). It is clamped to 30V by the chip. > > Usually does not get that high. > > > > > Also check/replace capacitors in primary. > > > > Yep. Done! > > > > > > > > If you find that VCC to 3842 pulses, I would suspect fault outside of PS > > > primary. > > > > > > > Vcc is varying due to change in loading but not pulsing. I am sure it > > is not dropping below a threshold wich will cause the chip to shut down. > > > > > > > Rudolf > > > > > > "Alan Liefting" <aliefting@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message > > > news:3C96692D.587C9095@ihug.co.nz... > > > > I am almost 100% sure that it is a PSU fault. The monitor will work > > > > occasionally. The EHT is coming up. The PSU control ic is not > shutting > > > > down due to overcurrent. There is an additional bit of circuitry that > > > > controls the 3842 chip. I think it is for power save. I am sure that > > > > this is the area where the fault is. > > > > > > > > Alan Liefting > > > > > > > > Rudolf Ladyzhenskii wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Check horizontal circuitry. > > > > > > > > > > Rudolf > > > > > > > > > > "Alan Liefting" <aliefting@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message > > > > > news:3C965925.4A3EA9E4@ihug.co.nz... > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the above monitor which is pulsing. The power supply is > coming > > > > > > up and shutting down a couple of times per second. It is > definitely a > > > > > > power supply fault. Voltage control is done on primary. > Disconnected > > > > > > optocoupler which is for power supply standby. Still no > difference. > > > > > > Replaced control capacitor. No difference. Replaced opto and > UC3842 > > > > > > control ic. Still no difference. Replaced a capacitor in an > obscure > > > > > > bit of circuitry and came right. Monitor then failed on test! > > > > > > > > > > > > FCC ID DK4M1566 > > > > > > > > > > > > HELP??!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Alan Liefting
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