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Article #1101Re: How to build obsolescence into an appliance.
From: Dve qgo100
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 04:13
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 04:13
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"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:a4klhi$vl2k$1@ID-69072.news.dfncis.de... > > D�ve qgo100@ubgznvy.pbz> <ROT13 for Email --> wrote in message > news:Kfkb8.146582$Gb1.19516510@typhoon.tampabay.rr.com... > > > I called RCA for a schematic for a $200 TVCR, > > they wanted $85 + shipping for it!!! > > Not very surprising given the low volume print runs etc I spose. > > The dinosaurs should have free pdfs on their web sites by now. > > > I guess they are selling a limited-edition, leather wrapped hardback > > version. I told them, for THAT price, it better come with a technician. > > Soorree, slavery is illegal now. They can have the tech back, when he's done repairing the set :) > > > Over the past couple of years, it seems ALL the companies > > are hi-jacking their prices. JVC is now selling some 20" TV > > syscon micro's for $87.00. That's more than a 1GHz Athlon. > > I don't recall seeing a big fan on the top of that JVC micro... > > You aint paying for the heat it generates, silly. The point was, that a 4 or maybe 8 bit micro from a 20" JVC TV cost more than a 1GHZ 32-bit CPU with 22 million transistors. There should be a "reasonable" profit margin. Most other manufacturers sold micro's for about $20. The $87.00 is far too much for what it is. These things are priced like they were hand-etched by japanese virgins, or something... > > > > "Franc Zabkar" <franczabkar@dinggoblue.net.au> wrote in message > > news:3c6cc21a.9302851@news.dingoblue.net.au... > > > On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 10:18:42 +1300, Alan Liefting > > > <aliefting@ihug.co.nz> put finger to keyboard and composed: > > > > > > Don't make service manuals or circuit diagrams available. If you do, > > > ensure that only your service agents get one, or price them so highly > > > that the job becomes uneconomical. > > > > > > Don't identify yourself as the manufacturer. Hide behind your OEM > > > resellers who of course will have no facilities to repair anything > > > except by total replacement. > > > > > > Scrape the numbers off your IC's, or have them stamped with obscure > > > in-house part numbers. You don't want to make repairs too easy for the > > > end user or for a third party repairer who would otherwise be able to > > > source these $1 garden variety parts from any electronics store. > > > > > > Don't stock parts that could reasonably be expected to fail or wear > > > out, eg battery contacts, flex PCBs, remote control keypads, curly > > > cords. If you must supply them, then do so as part of a complete, > > > uneconomically priced assembly. > > > > > > Use flimsy non-standard (and hence unavailable) connectors for > > > attaching expensive proprietary AC adaptors, chargers, and > > > accessories. > > > > > > Use expensive sealed units which cannot be opened for service without > > > being damaged, and which are powered by an inexpensive internal > > > battery. > > > > > > > > > -- Franc Zabkar > > > > > > Please remove one 'g' from my address when replying by email. > > > > > > > > > >
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